Fallon, Mark - short clip - AnOpportunityLost-newwm
MP4
Loading the media player...
Transcript
- Download transcript as:
-
Text
-
PDF
-
WebVTT (includes timecodes)
Transcripts may contain inaccuracies.
| - | I think it was an opportunity lost. | 0:00 |
| This was an opportunity | 0:03 | |
| for us to show the world, set an example for the world. | 0:06 | |
| I think had we treated the detainees | 0:12 | |
| with greater dignity and respect, | 0:16 | |
| we would have elicited more information earlier from them. | 0:18 | |
| I think had we tried detainees in a fair and just process, | 0:22 | |
| had we released detainees after giving us information | 0:28 | |
| rather than keeping them, | 0:33 | |
| it would have opened up a greater collection | 0:34 | |
| of intelligence. | 0:36 | |
| In the US, how did we how did we finally break | 0:37 | |
| organized crime? | 0:39 | |
| We got people on the inside. | 0:41 | |
| We made deals with them. | 0:43 | |
| They gave us information. | 0:44 | |
| We took care of them. | 0:45 | |
| They didn't go to jail. | 0:46 | |
| They were released. | 0:47 | |
| So, so if someone if someone actually wants to go home, | 0:48 | |
| what better example is there than having someone | 0:52 | |
| who has been cooperative be sent back home? | 0:56 | |
| Had we let the court system work out the kinks | 0:59 | |
| in the military commission process early on, | 1:03 | |
| we'd probably have a pretty good process today. | 1:06 | |
| A decade later, we're still struggling down there | 1:09 | |
| with the process that was created. | 1:12 | |
| So in hindsight, the other piece, | 1:15 | |
| there was no effort to to de-radicalize | 1:19 | |
| or disengage or rehabilitate detainees there. | 1:23 | |
| And so the fear had always been | 1:26 | |
| if you took someone who was not guilty | 1:29 | |
| and you placed them with some, | 1:32 | |
| because there were some pretty bad people down there, | 1:33 | |
| you placed them together with some pretty bad people | 1:35 | |
| and you did not treat them very well, | 1:37 | |
| and you took them away from their families, | 1:39 | |
| might you not have created the very adversary | 1:41 | |
| that you feared in the beginning, even though | 1:44 | |
| they might might've been that dangerous when they got there. | 1:46 | |
| So I think it was really an opportunity lost. | 1:48 | |
| This is the difficult part, you know, | 1:50 | |
| for folks who have been working Al-Qaeda for years. | 1:52 | |
| At the time of 9-11, the range, the estimate range | 1:57 | |
| of the number of people who you would consider | 2:02 | |
| Al-Qaeda probably ranged between two and 400. | 2:03 | |
| How many thousands now do we consider among the rounds | 2:08 | |
| of Al-Qaeda? | 2:11 | |
| So, you know, their numbers have grown | 2:13 | |
| in spite of all of our efforts. | 2:17 | |
| And now they're franchised. | 2:19 |
Item Info
The preservation of the Duke University Libraries Digital Collections and the Duke Digital Repository programs are supported in part by the Lowell and Eileen Aptman Digital Preservation Fund