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-	He's 15 years old.	0:00
	I mean, we shouldn't, you know,	0:01
	we should have a completely different policy	0:04
	and approach to how we handle children adolescents.	0:08
	I first met him in the areas	0:12
	where all the interrogations that occurred.	0:14
	And so these are makeshift buildings, you know,	0:16
	kind of quickly clapboard buildings put up,	0:18
	but they've got, you know, the iron beds, everything inside	0:23
	like we get in a lot of prison settings here in the US.	0:26
	He shackled all the time	0:31
	with his foot to an eye bolt on the ground cameras.	0:35
	And perhaps, I shouldn't have been,	0:41
	but I remember the best way to tell you how I felt	0:46
	was after meeting him for the first.	0:49
	He is a very nice young man.	0:52
	I mean, just a nice, decent young person.	0:55
	And after meeting him	1:00
	and spending time with him and talking with him	1:02
	a devout young man, but it feels the faith.	1:05
	I mean, he feels it in his soul.	1:08
	I remember walking out in the...	1:11
	I did the interview with a psychologist	1:14
	who had been down there before on another case.	1:16
	And we walked out, we had a little break	1:21
	and I started walking around	1:24
	and she started watching me.	1:28
	She said, "Well, I think I can talk to you."	1:31
	I said, no, I just gotta walk around and think.	1:35
	She says, "I called this the get moo goo, you've been good."	1:38
	This whole feeling will come over you.	1:44
	And it is a shock of what have we done here?	1:47
	Why are we doing this?	1:53

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Title:

Xenakis, Stephen - short clip - GitmoGoo

Date:

August 11, 2011

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Xenakis, Stephen

Role:

Military

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Brigadier General (Ret)
Stephen Xenakis, male, age 63, was an Army Brigadier General, and advised senior Department of Defense officials on issues of psychological health. As an expert on torture, he provided legal testimony on behalf of current and former detainees.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

United States

Format:

oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

1:38:28

Digital Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo

Source Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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