Bradley, Yvonne - short clip - FirstMeeting
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| - | I remember the first time going into | 0:00 |
| to see Mr. Mohamed. | 0:02 | |
| I, at that particular time, I'm kind of embarrassed to | 0:03 | |
| say this now, I was really scared to go into | 0:07 | |
| to meet him. | 0:11 | |
| And I had no reason to be scared and given my background | 0:13 | |
| given my criminal background, | 0:16 | |
| given that I've sat face-to-face with people | 0:17 | |
| who were convicted of crimes. | 0:20 | |
| But I remember walking in there thinking, | 0:23 | |
| "Wow, I'm scared | 0:25 | |
| to what I can even say to this individual." | 0:27 | |
| And I think it was at that point when I started | 0:30 | |
| putting together after meeting Mr. Mohamed | 0:33 | |
| and seeing him, seeing his demeanor and looking | 0:36 | |
| into his eyes and seeing his body language | 0:39 | |
| that he was probably more scared of me than I was of him. | 0:41 | |
| And I'm coming in and telling him, and he had no choice. | 0:45 | |
| I'm coming and telling him, "I'm your attorney." | 0:48 | |
| And he's trying to figure out, "Are you really | 0:51 | |
| my attorney? Is this a..." | 0:54 | |
| Because one of the things I heard | 0:56 | |
| that they were doing at Guantánamo, it was | 0:58 | |
| after attorneys would meet with certain clients or | 1:00 | |
| that individuals who go in, I don't know who they | 1:04 | |
| were saying they were attorneys trying | 1:06 | |
| to get detainees to confess | 1:08 | |
| or open up or make emissions. | 1:12 | |
| So part of, I think, probably that was going | 1:14 | |
| through his process is, | 1:16 | |
| "What kind of trick is this? | 1:18 | |
| Is this really real?" | 1:19 | |
| Because in Guantánamo, you, it's Alice in Wonderland, | 1:20 | |
| you don't know what's real. You don't know what's... | 1:23 | |
| It's absolutely madness. | 1:26 | |
| So I walk into the cell thinking, | 1:30 | |
| "Oh my God, this guy's a terrorist. | 1:31 | |
| I'm not going to give him any information. | 1:34 | |
| He's probably gonna get something | 1:36 | |
| out to do something against me or my family." | 1:37 | |
| I walk in there with that type of attitude. | 1:39 | |
| I walk out saying, "This is total nonsense." | 1:42 | |
| Almost angry because I realized for the first time | 1:46 | |
| that whatever I knew about Guantánamo, | 1:51 | |
| where I read about Guantánamo, | 1:53 | |
| whatever information they had about Binyam | 1:55 | |
| was likely not true. | 1:59 | |
| And that was the first time when it just hit me like, "Wow | 2:00 | |
| how fear and propaganda can make such a difference | 2:04 | |
| on how people understand things." | 2:08 | |
| And I was probably more mad coming out of that cell | 2:10 | |
| with Binyam than I was scared when I first went in. | 2:13 |
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