Frakt, David - short clip - TwoPeeRule
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| - | So we go over to see Mr., | 0:00 |
| to see Jawad at his prison camp. | 0:01 | |
| And we get there, we go to more checkpoints, | 0:06 | |
| more waiting, and visit was supposed to start at nine, | 0:10 | |
| and by now it's about 10:30. | 0:13 | |
| So I'm very frustrated. | 0:16 | |
| And we get in and they say, | 0:18 | |
| "There's a problem." | 0:22 | |
| I say, "Well, what's the problem?" | 0:23 | |
| "Mr. Jawad, he has to pee." | 0:26 | |
| I said, "Well, okay. | 0:29 | |
| "Well, let him pee then, and we'll wait." | 0:32 | |
| He said, "No, you don't understand. | 0:35 | |
| "He's already peed this morning." | 0:36 | |
| I said, "Yeah, I don't understand. | 0:39 | |
| "So what's the significance of that?" | 0:40 | |
| And he said, "Well, we have a two pee rule." | 0:42 | |
| I said, "What's a two pee rule?" | 0:45 | |
| He said, "Well, if you have to pee a second time | 0:47 | |
| "then the interview is canceled and it's over, | 0:50 | |
| "and the session is over." | 0:53 | |
| I said, "You gotta be kidding me. | 0:56 | |
| "I mean, you guys took me to the wrong, | 0:57 | |
| "you told me the wrong information. | 0:59 | |
| "I'm late. | 1:01 | |
| "It's not his fault. | 1:02 | |
| "He's been sitting there." | 1:02 | |
| And it was ice cold in the prison. | 1:03 | |
| They keep the air conditioning very low. | 1:05 | |
| The detainees think it's to make them uncomfortable. | 1:09 | |
| The prison says it's to keep out the rats, | 1:11 | |
| or I don't know why, but it's always very, very cold | 1:14 | |
| in the prison itself, | 1:17 | |
| which is where this particular interview was being held, | 1:19 | |
| or was to be held. | 1:22 | |
| So I said, "Well, okay, if, | 1:23 | |
| "just let me talk to him just for one second." | 1:26 | |
| So we walk in and I asked my interpreter | 1:28 | |
| to ask him if he really needs to go that badly, | 1:32 | |
| and we walk in and he's hopping back and forth on one foot, | 1:37 | |
| doing the pee pee dance, | 1:41 | |
| which is not easy when your legs are shackled together, | 1:44 | |
| but he clearly had to go. | 1:47 | |
| And as I learned later, he had kidney problems, | 1:48 | |
| and he had to, frequently had to urinate. | 1:51 | |
| And he says, 'cause it was a constant cold | 1:54 | |
| just made it very difficult for him. | 1:57 | |
| So he said, "Yeah, I really gotta go." | 2:01 | |
| I said, "Okay, well, I'm your new lawyer. | 2:05 | |
| "We'll come back and see you as soon as we can. | 2:07 | |
| "I'm very sorry about the delay." | 2:08 | |
| And so it was a horrible, horrible start | 2:10 | |
| to my attorney-client relationship building | 2:13 | |
| and how I envisioned in this great speech | 2:19 | |
| that I had prepared. | 2:21 | |
| But it was emblematic of the Guantanamo experience | 2:23 | |
| because there was always some snafu like that. | 2:27 |
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