Shimkus, Albert - short clip - BSCT-Behavioral Science Control Team

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-	There was something called the biscuit,	0:00
	behavioral science control team.	0:02
	And so I forget exactly when they came on the scene	0:04
	but it was probably March, April,	0:07
	something like that, of 2002	0:11
	and behavioral science control team	0:15
	came to see me based on the fact	0:20
	that they were medical professionals	0:21
	and they knew I was the JTF surgeon	0:23
	and they wanted access to the detainee	0:25
	and to work with the medical staff	0:31
	with the detainee population.	0:35
	And so we had a discussion about what their purpose was.	0:37
	And so it was my decision,	0:41
	as soon as I understood what their purpose was,	0:43
	in which they decided, once they told me was	0:46
	that they were there to assist the interrogators	0:48
	with the interrogation process.	0:53
	And I said, in my view, you can't be both a caregiver	0:55
	and be assisting the interrogators.	1:00
	So I partitioned them very specifically away	1:03
	from the caregiving of the detainee population.	1:06
	And in fact, our discussions became very limited	1:11
	because I had no bearing in which,	1:16
	no situation in which I could foresee them	1:21
	being credentialed by me to give care.	1:24
	And I was the credentialing authority	1:27
	for all the physicians in the JTF.	1:28
	And so there were psychologists	1:30
	and psychiatrists who were advising the interrogators	1:32
	on interrogation techniques	1:38
	but it was not, they were not part of my medical team.	1:39

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Title:

Shimkus, Albert - short clip - BSCT-Behavioral Science Control Team

Date:

August 9, 2011

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Shimkus, Albert

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Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Hospital Commanding Officer
Albert Shimkus, male, age 66, was the commanding officer and joint task force surgeon at the U.S. Naval Hospital in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba from January 2002 to July 2003.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

United States

Format:

oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

1:52:30

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Witness to Guantanamo

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Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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