Lewis, Paul - short clip - HurtingMoreThanHelping

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	(pencil scratching)	0:00
-	Having worked for both parties	0:02
	on the Hill an executive branch there	0:04
	everybody wants to protect the country.	0:07
	It's just how you get there.	0:09
	But everybody's operating in good faith.	0:11
	I do think the United States has the legal authority	0:14
	to detain people indefinitely,	0:17
	with due process.	0:20
	If they have lawyers	0:21
	and it's not a legal black hole	0:23
	that their status is reviewed.	0:27
	But I think when you look at	0:30
	all the issues,	0:32
	the cost,	0:33
	the international communities,	0:35
	questions about Gitmo,	0:37
	the recruiting tool	0:39
	in President Obama's statement	0:40
	that we can do better as a country.	0:43
	The costs of Gitmo outweigh the benefits of Gitmo.	0:46
	You know you can detain people,	0:49
	Gitmo keep 'em off the battlefield.	0:50
	But I personally think it's killing us	0:52
	in the international community.	0:53
	It's radicalizing people.	0:55
	And most of the military General Dempsey said	0:57
	Gitmo was hurting us,	1:00
	General Petraeus said, Gitmo was hurting us.	1:01
	You know, every secretary of state,	1:04
	every secretary of defense.	1:06
	There are arguments on both sides but,	1:08
	most of the people in the Bush Administration,	1:10
	including the President,	1:13
	came to the conclusion that it's hurting us	1:14
	more than helping us.	1:16
	President Obama made the same conclusion	1:18
	and I agree with him.	1:22

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Title:

Lewis, Paul - short clip - HurtingMoreThanHelping

Date:

May 31, 2017

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Lewis, Paul

Role:

Government

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Special Envoy for Guantanamo Closure
Paul Lewis, male, age 58, was the Department of Defense Special Envoy for Guantanamo Closure from October 2013 until February 2, 2017, and during his tenure was able to reduce the number of detainees remaining at the prison to 41.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

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United States

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oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

1:29:40

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