Peirce, Gareth - short clip - UKHasNeverConfrontedAmerica
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| (chalkboard scratching) | 0:00 | |
| (keyboard clacking) | 0:04 | |
| - | Things are so terrible in Guantanamo. | 0:19 |
| The length of time men have had to endure being there | 0:25 | |
| is so appalling. | 0:29 | |
| The desperation of the men in Guantanamo is so great | 0:32 | |
| that there has been now an ongoing hunger strike, | 0:37 | |
| which will lead to deaths. | 0:42 | |
| And yet, | 0:48 | |
| with all of the history, | 0:50 | |
| what is this country doing? | 0:53 | |
| Nothing. | 0:56 | |
| It claims, | 0:59 | |
| it's taken steps. | 1:01 | |
| But when we've | 1:04 | |
| (throat clearing) | ||
| talked to the highest level | 1:05 | |
| of American officials, | 1:08 | |
| (throat clearing) | 1:12 | |
| they've said, | 1:14 | |
| "You know when the Brits want something, | 1:16 | |
| and you know when they're just going through the motions. | 1:21 | |
| And, | 1:26 | |
| until very recently, | 1:29 | |
| all they've done | 1:31 | |
| is at most go through the motions with Shakar." | 1:33 | |
| But, | 1:41 | |
| at the same time, | 1:43 | |
| with weasel words saying, | 1:47 | |
| "We deplore torture." | 1:49 | |
| We have made it clear to the Americans | 1:53 | |
| that we do not agree with the continuing of Guantanamo. | 1:56 | |
| But when we've asked, I've met the Foreign Secretary, | 2:02 | |
| I've met the Senior Foreign Office officials. | 2:06 | |
| I have asked, | 2:10 | |
| "In one single encounter with the Americans, | 2:11 | |
| have you ever said to them that what's going on is torture?" | 2:16 | |
| And the answer is, | 2:22 | |
| "No. We have never, ever confronted them with criminality." | 2:23 | |
| Have you ever said to them, | 2:30 | |
| "Arbitrary detention, indefinite detention without trial | 2:32 | |
| is entirely unlawful and can, | 2:39 | |
| after an extended period, constitute torture in itself?" | 2:43 | |
| Have you ever said that to them? | 2:47 | |
| Have you ever said to the Americans, | 2:48 | |
| "We want to say to you this is unlawful"? | 2:51 | |
| And they say, "No." | 2:55 | |
| They say, "In our view, what would work would be diplomacy, | 2:57 | |
| and what you're suggesting is counterproductive." | 3:03 |
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