Gorman, Candace - short clip - TurnOverTheArab
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| - | He was living in Jalalabad, | 0:00 |
| that's a medium-sized city in Afghanistan, | 0:03 | |
| he was a shopkeeper with his wife, | 0:07 | |
| they sold honey and had just expanded | 0:10 | |
| to making a bakery too, they sold spices, | 0:13 | |
| when he says shopkeeper, "Ms. Gorman, when I say shopkeeper, | 0:16 | |
| "I'm not talking big shop, little shop." | 0:20 | |
| So it was a little shop, somewhere in Jalalabad, | 0:25 | |
| and when the Allies, when the coalition of the willing, | 0:28 | |
| started their attack on Afghanistan, | 0:34 | |
| they started bombing Jalalabad as well, | 0:35 | |
| and so he took his wife and daughter | 0:38 | |
| and said let's, I'm going to take you to the village | 0:40 | |
| where your family is. | 0:43 | |
| And I know he said it should have been | 0:45 | |
| a very short trip, it should have been, | 0:47 | |
| like, an hour and a half, | 0:48 | |
| but it took a full day to get there, | 0:50 | |
| and after he got there, | 0:53 | |
| they were in the house of his in-laws, | 0:56 | |
| I think he said he was there a day or two at most, | 0:59 | |
| and someone came and knocked on the door, | 1:03 | |
| and said turn over the Arab, and we won't have any problems. | 1:05 | |
| And one of the things that people don't realize | 1:10 | |
| is that when you're dropping all those bombs, | 1:12 | |
| you're also dropping pamphlets, flyers. | 1:14 | |
| And we were offering a bounty to the Afghanis | 1:17 | |
| and to the Pakistanis, primarily, others as well, | 1:20 | |
| to turn over the terrorists and murderers, | 1:23 | |
| which was taken to mean Arabs, | 1:26 | |
| and that you would get enough money | 1:29 | |
| to care for your family, your village, | 1:31 | |
| your extended families, for the rest of your life. | 1:35 | |
| I mean it's a dream come true, right? | 1:38 | |
| We will cover schools, education, medical, | 1:41 | |
| so turn them over. | 1:45 | |
| So he was taken out of the house, | 1:46 | |
| he was taken to the local jail, | 1:49 | |
| where he said they were actually laughing, | 1:51 | |
| he said they were speaking in Pashto, | 1:54 | |
| and they didn't realize that he understood Pashto, | 1:55 | |
| and they were laughing about how, | 1:58 | |
| they had a bounty for him, and they were laughing about | 2:00 | |
| how much money they were gonna get for turning him over. | 2:01 | |
| And he was turned over to the Northern Alliance first, | 2:05 | |
| and he said conditions, the way they were treated, | 2:09 | |
| you know, were just really awful, | 2:12 | |
| and he heard that the Americans were coming to the town, | 2:15 | |
| and because he spoke English, | 2:18 | |
| he tried to finaggle his way around | 2:20 | |
| to be in a position where maybe | 2:22 | |
| he could talk to the Americans, | 2:24 | |
| and get turned over to them, where he thought | 2:26 | |
| he would be treated humanely. | 2:28 | |
| And then I remember him saying, | 2:31 | |
| it was not so humane. | 2:32 | |
| He didn't use the words "not so humane," | 2:34 | |
| he said, "I didn't realize the United States | 2:36 | |
| "could be worse than the Northern Alliance." | 2:38 |
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