Lietzau, William - short clip - WeNeedAnEndgame

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-	We've got to bring this war to a conclusion.	0:00
	So you have to have an end game for Guantanamo.	0:02
	You can't keep Guantanamo alive forever.	0:04
	You can't more importantly,	0:06
	you can't stay at war forever.	0:07
	In a legally cognizable war.	0:09
	You may stay at,	0:11
	you may stay in a fight with terrorism.	0:13
	Terrorism is not gonna go away	0:15
	but we fought it with a law enforcement framework before.	0:17
	And I think ultimately we need to fight it	0:22
	with a law enforcement framework again.	0:23
	In the meantime, I do not think it was wrong	0:27
	to go to war as some people do.	0:29
	I'm okay with that,	0:30
	but at some, but we need end an end game.	0:31
Interviewer	So the 48 people,	0:33
	what's the end game for them?	0:34
-	In my book on the day	0:37
	that we say we're no longer	0:40
	in a lawfully cognizable, armed conflict with Al Qaeda	0:42
	if they cannot be prosecuted,	0:45
	they go home.	0:47
	They get released and that is going to	0:49
	and we will put people at risk,	0:51
	but after world war II	0:53
	we released hundreds of thousands of prisoners of war.	0:54
	Some of them were of a somewhat similar ilk and	0:57
	they did endanger people.	1:01
	And we released people	1:04
	in a criminal context everyday	1:05
	that endangered people	1:06
	but the rule of law	1:07
	maintaining the rule of law	1:09
	is more important	1:10
	than the particular threat.	1:12
	As long as it's manageable.	1:15
	Closing Guantanamo is not more important	1:17
	than our human lives.	1:19
	The rule of law is.	1:20

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Title:

Lietzau, William - short clip - WeNeedAnEndgame

Date:

November 22, 2013

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Lietzau, William

Role:

Government

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense
William Lietzau, male, age 53, was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Detainee Policy, and Deputy Legal Adviser to the National Security Council, and led the United States negotiating team responsible for defining war crimes for the International Criminal Court.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

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oral histories

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English

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2:52:23

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Witness to Guantanamo

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Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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