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-	The extent to which the state department did have a say	0:03
	was where there were concerns about torture.	0:06
	So a lot of times, even though DOD might be comfortable	0:09
	with somebody being transferred and happy	0:14
	with the security arrangements, we would have concerns	0:16
	about the Human Rights implications of doing that	0:20
	and would stop a transfer.	0:24
	There was also a situation where	0:26
	people would be given exit interviews	0:28
	when they left Guantanamo.	0:30
	And this was a bit of a point of contention	0:34
	between the State department and Defense department	0:37
	Because sometimes in these exit interviews,	0:40
	individuals would express fears about mistreatment	0:42
	or other things that we felt we had an obligation	0:45
	to investigate further before agreeing to the transfer.	0:48
	DOD was unwilling to do these interviews	0:54
	too far in advance because of security reasons.	0:59
	They said they didn't want people to be aware	1:02
	that they were about to be transferred out	1:04
	until sort of the last minute.	1:06
	But it put us in a very difficult situation	1:09
	because if fears were expressed,	1:11
	we wouldn't get notice of it until right at the last minute.	1:14
	And then we would really be scurrying to try	1:17
	to substantiate these claims or not.	1:19
	And a lot of times they would bring up issues	1:21
	related to specific things that had happened in their past	1:25
	which weren't a matter of public record.	1:29
	And we would then have to go back very quickly	1:30
	to our Embassy in the country and try to find out the facts	1:32
	and whether this was justified or not.	1:36
	And so this resulted at times in a bit of a divide	1:39
	between state and defense at the last minute	1:44
	before transfers were supposed to happen.	1:46

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Title:

Williamson, Clint - short clip - ADivideBetweenStateandDefense

Date:

July 29, 2013

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Williamson, Clint

Role:

Government

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Ambassador for War Crimes
Clint Williamson, male, age 51, was the Ambassador-at-Large for War Crimes Issues from 2006 to 2009, during which he led international resettlement for Guantanamo detainees.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

United States

Format:

oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

1:47:18

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Witness to Guantanamo

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Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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