Guter, Donald - short clip - ConfrontingJimHaynesAbouttheLackofInformation-review
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- | At the time and as I look back, | 0:00 |
there was a certain point where I said, | 0:05 | |
"Boy, we're really being marginalized here." | 0:07 | |
In terms of... | 0:09 | |
- | Who's we? | |
The Navy JAG, the Army JAG | 0:11 | |
the Air Force JAG. | 0:12 | |
I mean we were, | 0:13 | |
we usually meet with the general counsel | 0:15 | |
on a fairly frequent basis. | 0:22 | |
I wanna say monthly. | 0:24 | |
We had a particular meeting with him | 0:27 | |
where we were still all gathered at, | 0:29 | |
we'd meet over lunch. | 0:31 | |
And he would, we, the JAGs | 0:33 | |
the Army, Navy, Air Force JAG, common ops lawyer, | 0:37 | |
we all met outside the room. | 0:40 | |
And at that point, I don't want to jump so far ahead, | 0:42 | |
but discussions had started about commissions, | 0:45 | |
you know, what we would do. | 0:50 | |
And I remember the Army JAG, Tom Romig saying, | 0:52 | |
we, you know, we need more information. | 0:58 | |
I mean, we're kind of operating in a vacuum here. | 1:01 | |
And I said, yeah, my guys are saying the same thing. | 1:03 | |
I mean, they're saying, what am I supposed to be working on? | 1:05 | |
And I'm saying, I'm not sure. | 1:07 | |
Keep doing research, you know. | 1:10 | |
Research commissions, you know, write down some opinions. | 1:11 | |
So he said well we need more information. | 1:15 | |
I said, and I said, I'll give it a shot. | 1:18 | |
So we went into this lunch, and this is another, | 1:21 | |
it's a vignette, but I remember it. | 1:24 | |
Jim went around the room and we all, | 1:28 | |
you know, gave him reports, Jim Haynes. | 1:31 | |
And we went around the room | 1:33 | |
and we just gave him, you know, our little reports, | 1:33 | |
what was going on in our world, nothing really significant. | 1:35 | |
And so we had a little talk about the commissions | 1:39 | |
and I was, I just have, | 1:42 | |
we sat wherever we wanted at these things, | 1:45 | |
but this meeting I just happen to be sitting | 1:46 | |
right across the table from him. | 1:48 | |
And I said, Jim, are we on the team or not? | 1:49 | |
I mean, we need more information. | 1:54 | |
And this collegial meeting turned at that point | 1:56 | |
he just looked at me and he said, no you don't. | 1:58 | |
I said, okay, we don't. | 2:02 | |
So we walked out afterwards and as guys will do, | 2:04 | |
you know, they kind of slapped me on the back. | 2:08 | |
And I said, I gave it a shot. | 2:09 | |
I mean, I, we're only going to get the information | 2:11 | |
they want to give us. | 2:14 |
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