Mcfadden, Robert - short clip - HarassmentNotInterrogation

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-	One of the intelligence officers in the group	0:00
	that had already been down to Guantanamo	0:03
	in more of a leadership, at a leadership level,	0:05
	was recounting story of one	0:09
	of the detainees in Guantanamo, who was a,	0:13
	he was an Imam, he had religious credentials,	0:16
	but still a member of one of the organizations,	0:19
	either Al-Qaeda or affiliated.	0:22
	And this intelligence officer from DOD	0:24
	was recounting with glee how by doing things like	0:27
	sexual teasing, even lap dances, I think, at the time.	0:33
	And putting Rose water	0:37
	with cotton balls	0:42
	or with a female interrogator on the Imam's hand,	0:43
	how, as he said, it was driving him crazy.	0:46
	And so I said, okay, well, that's interesting.	0:49
	So what about the intelligence take?	0:52
	And he said, no, you don't understand.	0:54
	It just drives them crazy.	0:55
	(chuckles uncomfortably)	0:57
	And so I said, okay, so then what happened next?	0:58
	He said, you won't believe it.	1:00
	Because the Imam wanted to pray,	1:02
	it was time from the pray,	1:04
	but he couldn't cause you can't do the ablution with this,	1:04
	the rituals are extremely important	1:08
	and that's one of the things very, very important	1:10
	to know about to manipulate in a good way.	1:11
	He said when he wanted to pray, the female interrogator	1:14
	put more Rose water on his hand.	1:17
	And the next thing you know, the Imam threw himself	1:19
	down on the floor and was banging his head	1:21
	on the cement in the interrogation room	1:23
	and the rest of the, the gentlemen in the room were	1:26
	(claps and cheers)	1:29
	And so I was left with like	1:30
	I don't understand why - isn't that just wasting time?	1:33
	So it didn't really go anywhere.	1:37

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Title:

Mcfadden, Robert - short clip - HarassmentNotInterrogation

Date:

August 19, 2014

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Mcfadden, Robert

Role:

Military

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Special Agent in Charge, NCIS Global Support Field Office
Robert Mcfadden, male, age 56, worked at the Naval Criminal Investigative Service from 2008-2011, serving as Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Operations for his final year.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

United States

Format:

oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

1:59:16

Digital Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo

Source Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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