Fallon, Mark - short clip - AnOpportunityLost
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| - | I think it was an opportunity lost. | 0:00 |
| This was an opportunity for us | 0:03 | |
| to set an example for the world. | 0:10 | |
| I think had we treated the detainees | 0:12 | |
| with greater dignity and respect, | 0:16 | |
| we would have elicited more information earlier from them. | 0:18 | |
| I think had we tried detainees in a fair and just process, | 0:22 | |
| had we release detainees after giving us information | 0:28 | |
| rather than keeping them, | 0:33 | |
| it would have opened up a greater collection of intelligence | 0:34 | |
| in the US. | 0:37 | |
| How did we finally break organized crime? | 0:38 | |
| We got people on the inside, | 0:41 | |
| we made deals with them, they gave us information, | 0:43 | |
| we took care of them, | 0:45 | |
| they didn't go to jail, | 0:46 | |
| they were released. | 0:47 | |
| So if someone actually wants to go home, | 0:48 | |
| what better example is there | 0:52 | |
| than having someone who has been cooperative | 0:54 | |
| be sent back home? | 0:57 | |
| Had we let the court system work out the kinks | 0:59 | |
| in the military commission process early on, | 1:03 | |
| we probably have a pretty good process today. | 1:06 | |
| A decade later we're still struggling down there | 1:09 | |
| with the process that was created. | 1:12 | |
| So in hindsight, the other piece, | 1:15 | |
| there was no effort to to deradicalize or disengage | 1:19 | |
| or rehabilitate detainees there. | 1:24 | |
| And so the fear had always been | 1:26 | |
| if you took someone who was not guilty | 1:29 | |
| and you placed them with some... | 1:32 | |
| Cause there were some pretty bad people down there. | 1:33 | |
| You placed them together with some pretty bad people | 1:35 | |
| and you did not treat them very well | 1:37 | |
| and you took them away from their families, | 1:39 | |
| might you not have created the very adversary | 1:41 | |
| that you feared in the beginning, | 1:44 | |
| even though they might've been that dangerous | 1:45 | |
| when they got there. | 1:47 | |
| So I think it was really an opportunity lost. | 1:48 | |
| This is the difficult part, you know, | 1:50 | |
| for folks who have been working Al-Qaeda for years. | 1:52 | |
| At the time of 9/11, | 1:57 | |
| the estimate range or the number of people | 2:00 | |
| who you would consider Al-Qaeda, | 2:03 | |
| probably ranged between two and 400. | 2:05 | |
| How many thousands now do we consider | 2:08 | |
| are among the ranks of Al-Qaeda? | 2:11 | |
| So, you know, | 2:12 | |
| their numbers have grown in spite of all of our efforts, | 2:14 | |
| and now they're franchised. | 2:19 |
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