Dixon, J. Wells - short clip - FailuretoClose
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| - | They began their sort of renewed efforts | 0:00 |
| to close the prison | 0:03 | |
| with these transfers to Algeria, | 0:03 | |
| which were, you know, highly controversial to say the least | 0:05 | |
| and disputed in the case of a number of the men, | 0:10 | |
| including my client, Mr. Missoulian. | 0:12 | |
| And so I sort of questioned the judgment | 0:14 | |
| their judgment in doing that. | 0:16 | |
| I don't know why in the world | 0:19 | |
| they would begin renewed efforts to close Guantanamo | 0:21 | |
| with contested transfers, but that's | 0:24 | |
| that's what they've done. | 0:27 | |
| And they've been, I would say marginally successful | 0:28 | |
| you know, they they've transferred several Algerians | 0:31 | |
| some of them against their will. | 0:35 | |
| Some of them voluntarily they've transferred | 0:36 | |
| I think two Saudi's three Uyghurs, | 0:39 | |
| if I'm not mistaken, that's it. | 0:45 | |
| And no one since, since January | 0:47 | |
| and there remains 77 men who were approved for transfer | 0:50 | |
| 56 of them are from Yemen. | 0:53 | |
| I think a lot of people are surprised | 0:55 | |
| that Guantanamo still exists, or they think that | 0:58 | |
| everybody who is safe to release has already been released. | 1:02 | |
| They don't realize that more | 1:06 | |
| than half of the people are approved | 1:08 | |
| for transfer unanimously by all the government agencies. | 1:09 | |
| They don't realize that that the prison is now | 1:14 | |
| increasingly a prison for men from Yemen and you know | 1:18 | |
| out of sight, out of mind too, to a large degree. | 1:24 | |
| But I think when you, when you sit | 1:27 | |
| and you tell people the stories | 1:28 | |
| about the men who were there | 1:30 | |
| they're surprised and they're shocked and they're appalled. | 1:32 | |
| When I tell people about Jamella Mezzian | 1:36 | |
| my Algerian client, when I tell people that he was there | 1:39 | |
| for years, despite the government's admission | 1:42 | |
| that there was no need to detain him. | 1:44 | |
| When I tell them about Luxembourg offering to take him. | 1:47 | |
| When I tell them he's been forced back | 1:50 | |
| to Algeria and left utterly destitute | 1:52 | |
| with nothing but his prison uniform, people are appalled. | 1:54 | |
| They don't know these stories. | 1:57 | |
| They don't know that this is happening. | 1:58 | |
| And, and so that's one of the challenges that we | 2:02 | |
| face to try to convey these stories | 2:05 | |
| to tell people what's happening. | 2:08 | |
| And I think, you know, someday Guantanamo | 2:10 | |
| I guess we'll close, right? | 2:12 | |
| I mean, you know, it may be like as, as | 2:14 | |
| as a journalist who I'm forgetting is said, you know | 2:20 | |
| maybe like Spandau prison in, in Germany | 2:22 | |
| after world war II, you may end up with, you know | 2:25 | |
| one toothless old alleged Taliban foot soldier | 2:28 | |
| or a shepherd for all we know, you know, roaming around | 2:35 | |
| inside an empty prison until he dies of old age or neglect. | 2:39 | |
| You know, at some point, you know | 2:44 | |
| these men are gonna die and they're gonna, | 2:47 | |
| or kill themselves or it's inevitable. | 2:50 | |
| It's inevitable. | 2:54 | |
| There, there is no other alternative. | 2:55 | |
| And that's something that the US | 2:57 | |
| is going to have to deal with. | 2:59 | |
| And, and it's, it's going to be terrible. | 3:02 |
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