Berenson, Bradford - short clip - Legal Precedents vs. the Temper of the Times

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	(typewriter clicks)	0:04
-	We believed wrongly, as it turned out	0:18
	that the writ of habeas Corpus would not extend	0:22
	to detainees who were outside US soil.	0:25
	There was a debate to be had over whether	0:28
	Guantanamo was or was not US soil	0:30
	given the terms of our lease with Cuba.	0:33
	But our best view in the collective view	0:36
	of the people inside the administration	0:38
	at the time was that that remained Cuban soil.	0:40
	And as such under what seemed	0:43
	to us at the time, very clear and unequivocal precedence	0:45
	there would have been no ability on	0:50
	the part of the US federal courts	0:52
	to review these battlefield detentions	0:55
	to entertain petitions for writs of habeas Corpus	0:57
	and to embroil the administration	1:01
	and the country in the kind	1:03
	of Law fare that subsequently became absolutely endemic	1:05
	and which the people prosecuting it,	1:09
	you know, ultimately I would say won,	1:12
	much to our surprise and frankly, chagrin.	1:16
	As time went on the way the Supreme court ended up ruling	1:19
	in the major, in the four or five major terrorism cases	1:23
	starting with Rosseull was a surprise,	1:27
	I think in, by and large, a disappointment	1:30
	to most of the administration lawyers, including myself.	1:32
	We radically underestimated the extent to which a change	1:35
	in the zeitgeists in the temper	1:39
	of the times could make its way	1:41
	into judicial consideration of issues like that	1:44
	and undermine what seemed to be well settled precedence.	1:47

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Title:

Berenson, Bradford - short clip - Legal Precedents vs. the Temper of the Times

Date:

September 11, 2015

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Berenson, Bradford

Role:

Government

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Associate Counsel to the President
Bradford Berenson, male, age 50, was Associate Counsel to President George W. Bush (2001-2003), and worked on the authorization for military commissions, detainee and anti-terrorism litigation, and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

United States

Format:

oral histories

Language:

English

Extent:

2:01:17

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Witness to Guantanamo

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Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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