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	(speaking in foreign language)	0:00
Translator	Ultimately, there is no use	0:06
	in seeing a psychologist	0:08
	because he's just going to listen to you	0:09
	and then he will prescribe some medicine.	0:12
	We all know what the problem is.	0:14
	It isn't going to be fixed with medicine.	0:16
	The psychologist knows the problem.	0:18
	He knows what's wrong with you.	0:20
	So there is some hypocrisy behind all this,	0:22
	because everyone knows what the problem is.	0:24
	It isn't hard to figure out,	0:27
	when you see the living conditions in Guantanamo	0:29
	you know what the problem is.	0:31
	So he's going to listen to you.	0:34
	He's going to give you medicine,	0:36
	but he too is an accomplice in the system.	0:38
	You know what I mean?	0:40
	In Guantanamo, everyone you've met,	0:41
	they were all part of the system.	0:43
	One cannot trust anyone in Guantanamo, not anyone,	0:46
	because they're all on the same side.	0:49
	They're all fine with the system.	0:52
	(Khaled speaking in foreign language)	0:55
	When we had just arrived in Guantanamo,	1:00
	they gave us pills.	1:02
	What did they call them?	1:03
	I don't know what for, there was some illness.	1:04
	I don't know what it was.	1:07
	And they give us some sort of pill,	1:08
	a lot of pills.	1:10
	I forget why.	1:11
	And you must take them,	1:12
	and we didn't want to take them.	1:13
	We don't want any medicine.	1:15
	We do not trust them at all.	1:16
	Even if we're ill, we don't want any medicine.	1:18
	And that caused a huge problem at first.	1:21
	At first there were many, many problems with this issue,	1:23
	and we must take the medicine in front of the nurse.	1:27
	The nurses there, he checks	1:30
	whether you've actually taken the pill.	1:32
	And then he says, "Open your mouth,"	1:34
	in order to make sure that you haven't hidden it.	1:36
	There were immunization shots against hepatitis B, C.	1:41
	Some people never agreed to get the shot.	1:45
	And if you don't want to receive that shot,	1:48
	they bring in the intervention squad.	1:50
	So they handcuff us, they gas us, handcuffs,	1:52
	then they inject the vaccine by force.	1:55
	Immunizations were compulsory.	1:58
	(Khaled speaking in foreign language)	2:00
	We just cannot trust them, you see.	2:03
	I will tell you something that may shock you.	2:05
	But when I returned to France,	2:08
	I was sent to jail right away.	2:09
	And when I was in jail, I went to see the doctor.	2:11
	I asked him for a blood test	2:14
	to see whether I had AIDS and the doctor agreed.	2:15
	Later, he asked me, "Did you engage in sexual intercourse	2:19
	that you're worried about?"	2:22
	I told him, "No, I had no sexual intercourse	2:23
	but I'm coming from Guantanamo,	2:26
	and I was given many injections there.	2:28
	I don't trust them. I don't know	2:30
	what they injected me with."	2:31
	He told me, "But the Americans are very up to date.	2:33
	They only use clean needles."	2:36
	I said, "You don't understand.	2:38
	I think they've injected me on purpose."	2:40
	He cannot understand it.	2:42
	He could not understand, but in my heart	2:43
	I was sincere because I cannot trust them.	2:45
	In truth it is impossible to trust them.	2:48
	It is shocking to tell you this,	2:52
	but I was convinced, I was certain	2:53
	that they had injected me with something.	2:55
	That was our state of mind in Guantanamo.	2:58

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Title:

Mustafa, Khaled Ben - short clip - AllPartoftheSystem

Date:

September 25, 2010

Interviewer:

Honigsberg, Peter Jan

Interviewee:

Mustafa, Khaled Ben

Role:

Detainee

Description:

This interview may include descriptions of violence.
Detainee Number US9FR-000236DP
Khaled Ben Mustafa, male, age 38, French, was detained at Guantanamo February 13, 2002 until March 7, 2005, when he was returned to France for trial. Originally convicted in France in 2007, his trial was overturned on appeal and he was released in February 2009. Despite having already served the one-year sentence they faced, the Court of Cassation ordered a re-trial on February 17, 2010.
Description was provided by Witness to Guantanamo.

Subject:

France

Format:

oral histories

Language:

French

Extent:

2:43:26

Digital Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo

Source Collection:

Witness to Guantanamo Video Collection, 2009-2017

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