Mickum, George Brent - short clip - ThereIsNoLaw3
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- | Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, | 0:03 |
Rumsfeld, and countless others. | 0:09 | |
Oh, well, most recently this guy Rodriguez from CIA, | 0:12 | |
and Tenet from the CIA, have all written books | 0:16 | |
talking about my client's torture. | 0:19 | |
They all admitted that he's been waterboarded. | 0:22 | |
Hayden admitted it, | 0:24 | |
admitted that they destroyed 90 videotapes. | 0:26 | |
Everybody has conceded it was legal. | 0:30 | |
We've got these memoranda right here from John Yoo. | 0:32 | |
We know all this information. | 0:35 | |
Can my client, | 0:38 | |
through me, | 0:40 | |
tell people what it was like to be waterboarded | 0:42 | |
or what his, | 0:44 | |
what the other enhanced interrogation techniques were like? | 0:46 | |
Nah. | 0:48 | |
And why is that? | 0:50 | |
Well, because everything that he says | 0:52 | |
is presumably classified at the top secret level. | 0:54 | |
It's ridiculous. | 0:57 | |
Under Obama it's become much more difficult | 0:58 | |
to get any information out. | 1:01 | |
If I've signed a, get my client to sign a declaration, | 1:03 | |
they won't clear it. | 1:06 | |
They're telling me now that I have to tell them | 1:07 | |
the reason why I wanna use the declaration. | 1:09 | |
I mentioned the declaration to authorize | 1:12 | |
the Polish litigation, where he was in prison | 1:16 | |
at the black site. | 1:18 | |
They would never clear that. | 1:19 | |
And the reason is I wouldn't give them the reason why. | 1:21 | |
Now it would be easy enough for me to say, | 1:24 | |
"We wanna initiate litigation in Poland." | 1:27 | |
Had I done that, I'm sure they would have said, | 1:29 | |
"No, well, that doesn't have anything | 1:32 | |
"to do with habeas corpus, so we're not gonna do it." | 1:33 | |
But I couldn't do that even if I wanted to | 1:36 | |
because to divulge my thoughts and strategies | 1:39 | |
would be to violate the work product doctrine. | 1:45 | |
And I can't give up my work product. | 1:49 | |
I mean, that's not something I'm gonna do. | 1:51 | |
And I'm certainly not gonna tell my opponents, | 1:53 | |
the very line attorneys who are handling the case | 1:56 | |
against Abu Zubaydah and let them make the determination | 1:59 | |
as to whether it's a good use or not. | 2:03 | |
That's ridiculous. | 2:04 | |
I mean, but this is what, | 2:05 | |
this is where the law has gone | 2:07 | |
with regard to these detainees. | 2:09 | |
There is no law. | 2:10 | |
They can get away with it, | 2:12 | |
and they know they can get away with it. | 2:13 | |
And unless and until we can get some judges | 2:16 | |
who really have got some balls | 2:20 | |
to step in and say, "I don't care | 2:23 | |
"whether the DC Circuit reverses me. | 2:27 | |
"This is wrong, and this is my decision, | 2:29 | |
"and I'm orderin' this guy released." | 2:32 |
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