Mickum, George Brent - short clip - ThereIsNoLaw2
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| (pencil scratches) | 0:00 | |
| - | Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, | 0:03 |
| Rumsfeld, and countless others. | 0:09 | |
| Oh, well, most recently, this guy Rodriguez from the CIA, | 0:12 | |
| and Tenet, from the CIA, have all written books talking | 0:16 | |
| about my client's torture. | 0:20 | |
| They all admitted that he's been waterboarded. | 0:22 | |
| Hayden admitted it, admitted that they | 0:24 | |
| destroyed 90 videotapes. | 0:28 | |
| Everybody has conceded it was legal. | 0:30 | |
| We've got these memoranda right here from John Yoo. | 0:32 | |
| We know all this information. | 0:35 | |
| Can my client, through me, tell people | 0:38 | |
| what it was like to be waterboarded? | 0:43 | |
| Well, what his, what the other enhanced | 0:44 | |
| interrogation techniques were like? | 0:47 | |
| Nah. | 0:48 | |
| And why is that? | 0:50 | |
| Well, because everything that he says is presumably | 0:52 | |
| classified at the top secret level. | 0:55 | |
| It's ridiculous. | 0:57 | |
| Under Obama, it's become much more difficult to | 0:58 | |
| get any information out. | 1:01 | |
| If I've signed a dec-- get my client to sign a declaration, | 1:03 | |
| they won't clear it. | 1:06 | |
| They're telling me now that I have to tell them | 1:07 | |
| the reason why I want to use the declaration. | 1:09 | |
| But I couldn't do that, even if I wanted to, | 1:12 | |
| because to divulge my thoughts and strategies | 1:14 | |
| would be to violate the work product doctrine. | 1:20 | |
| And I can't give up my work product. | 1:24 | |
| I mean, that's not something I'm going to do. | 1:27 | |
| And I'm certainly not going to tell my opponents | 1:28 | |
| the very line attorneys who are handling the case | 1:31 | |
| against Abu Zubaydah, and let them make the determination | 1:35 | |
| as to whether it's a good use or not, that's ridiculous! | 1:38 | |
| I mean, but this is what, this is where the law has gone | 1:41 | |
| with regard to these detainees. | 1:44 | |
| There is no law. | 1:46 | |
| They can get away with it, | 1:47 | |
| and they know they can get away with it. | 1:49 | |
| And unless and until we can get some judges | 1:52 | |
| who really have got some balls | 1:55 | |
| to step in and say "I don't care whether the | 1:59 | |
| "DC circuit reverses me, this is wrong, | 2:03 | |
| "and this is my decision, | 2:06 | |
| "and I'm ordering this guy released." | 2:07 |
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