Mickum, George Brent - short clip - ThereIsNoLaw
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- | The bigger problem I have is | 0:00 |
that the Obama administration has been much more insidious. | 0:03 | |
As I said before... | 0:07 | |
They've basically clamped down. | 0:11 | |
We're not allowed to talk about anything. | 0:12 | |
I mean, let me just give you a real basic example. | 0:14 | |
Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Rumsfeld, | 0:19 | |
and countless others. | 0:26 | |
Oh, well, most recently this guy Rodriguez from CIA | 0:28 | |
and tenant from the CIA have all written books talking | 0:32 | |
about my client's torture. | 0:35 | |
They all admitted that he's been waterboarded. | 0:38 | |
Hayden admitted, admitted that they destroyed 90 videotapes. | 0:40 | |
Everybody has conceded it was legal. | 0:46 | |
We've got these memorandum right here from John Hugh. | 0:48 | |
we know all this information. | 0:51 | |
Can my client, through me. | 0:53 | |
tell people what it was like to be waterboarded? | 0:58 | |
Well, what is what the other enhanced interrogation | 1:00 | |
techniques were like? | 1:03 | |
Nah. And why is that? | 1:04 | |
Well, because everything that he says is presumably | 1:07 | |
classified at the top secret level. | 1:11 | |
It's ridiculous. | 1:13 | |
Interviewer | Who, who made that decision? | 1:14 |
- | The government, DOJ made that decision. | 1:17 |
Interviewer | Was that under the Obama administration? | 1:18 |
- | Well, no, it was made under Bush | 1:20 |
but it we've tried to get it relaxed. | 1:22 | |
And Obama has, | 1:25 | |
well under Obama it's become much more difficult | 1:28 | |
to get any information out. | 1:31 | |
If I've signed a deck, get my client to sign a declaration. | 1:32 | |
They won't clear it. | 1:36 | |
They're telling me now that I have to tell them | 1:37 | |
the reason why I want to use the declaration. | 1:40 | |
I mentioned the declaration to authorize the | 1:42 | |
Polish litigation, where he was in prison on the black side. | 1:46 | |
They would never clear that. | 1:50 | |
And the reason is, I wouldn't give him the reason why. | 1:51 | |
Now it would be easy enough for me to say, | 1:55 | |
we want to initiate litigation in Poland. | 1:57 | |
Had I done that? | 1:59 | |
I'm sure they would have said no. | 2:01 | |
Well, that doesn't have anything to do with habeas Corpus. | 2:02 | |
So we're not going to do it, but I couldn't do that. | 2:05 | |
Even if I wanted to, because to divulge my thoughts | 2:08 | |
and strategies would be to violate | 2:14 | |
the term of the work product doctrine. | 2:17 | |
And I can't give up my work product. | 2:19 | |
I mean, that's not something I'm going to do. | 2:21 | |
And I'm certainly not going to tell my opponents | 2:23 | |
the very line attorneys who are handling the case | 2:26 | |
against Abu Zubaydah and let them make the determination as | 2:29 | |
to whether it's a good use or not. | 2:33 | |
That's ridiculous. | 2:34 | |
I mean, but this is what, this is where the law has gone | 2:35 | |
with regard to these detainees. | 2:39 | |
There is no law. | 2:40 | |
They can get away with it and they know they can get | 2:42 | |
away with it. | 2:44 | |
And unless, and until we can get some judges | 2:46 | |
who really have got some balls to step in and say, | 2:50 | |
I don't care whether the DC circuit reverses me, | 2:55 | |
this is wrong, and this is my decision. | 2:59 | |
And I'm ordering this guy released. | 3:02 |
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