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	(murmuring)	0:00
Female	This is not the same thing.	0:02
	(laughs)	0:06
	Alright I'll soon be there, I'll be in good company.	0:08
	(murmuring)	0:14
-	How are you.	0:43
	This is Dr. Miller.	0:50
-	Hello, pleasure to meet you.	0:52
	(laughs)	1:13
-	I want to say good morning to everyone.	1:22
	Good morning again, we are ready to begin.	1:28
	Again good morning to this lovely Saturday morning	1:39
	in Raleigh North Carolina.	1:42
	Every morning in Raleigh North Carolina is a lovely morning.	1:44
	I am Dr. H C Miller.	1:49
	I'm the senior pastor here Tupper Memorial Baptist Church.	1:51
	I stand this morning with great joy and pleasure	1:53
	to greet you and to welcome you	1:56
	to the facilities here at Tupper	1:58
	with the faint attempt to lay aside my biases	2:01
	I want to say that you should be at Tupper this morning.	2:05
	Tupper Memorial Baptist Church has a unique connection	2:09
	with Shaw University and the community here.	2:12
	Unique in the sense that Tupper Memorial Baptist Church	2:15
	is 132 years old.	2:17
	It is named after Henry Martin Tupper	2:20
	who was the founding president of Shaw University	2:22
	so we have that connection with the university	2:26
	and with this community.	2:28
	So subsequently again I insist that	2:30
	you should be here this morning.	2:32
	Welcome to Tupper.	2:34
	Welcome to our facilities, please make yourselves at home.	2:36
	We're excited about having you here,	2:39
	and we bless the Lord	2:40
	that you were able to be with us this morning	2:41
	and again please be at home and know that	2:43
	you are in the right place at the right time	2:45
	and you certainly are about the right things.	2:47
	I greet you in the name of our Christ,	2:50
	I greet you in the name of the Tupper rights	2:51
	who dwell and worship here,	2:53
	I greet you in the name and in the sense	2:55
	of the residents of this area.	2:57
	Again we're glad to have you here.	2:59
	If there's anything that we can do	3:00
	to make your stay more pleasant,	3:01
	please don't hesitate to let us know.	3:03
	Thank for being here this morning again,	3:05
	good morning to you.	3:06
	(applause)	3:08
-	Good morning everyone.	3:13
	Sorry that we're running late and because of that	3:16
	we will have to cut short both sessions	3:20
	because as you know if you are invited to a luncheon	3:23
	you must be there on time	3:26
	so we will attempt to cut everything fairly short	3:28
	but leave enough time to at least	3:31
	have a general discussion about the topic	3:33
	which is going to be the legacy of Mrs. Baker.	3:36
	Now you may want to know who I am.	3:40
	I am Jacqueline Brokinton and Ms. Baker's niece	3:42
	for all purposes, she was my mother because	3:47
	I lived with her since I was nine	3:51
	so to me she is my mom so if I refer to her as	3:54
	Aunt Ella, you will understand because that's just	3:59
	a natural name.	4:02
	I wanted to first of all say to you	4:04
	that think when we speak of Aunt Ella,	4:06
	it will vary as to what people might think	4:10
	her legaCy would be depending on where you worked with her	4:13
	and when you worked with her.	4:17
	She has been involved in a lot of areas	4:19
	and when I think of Shaw University,	4:22
	I want to just give you my first memory	4:25
	of Aunt Ella talking about Shaw	4:29
	and the memory was regarding organizing some of the students	4:32
	her first organization because they didn't allow	4:37
	the young people to walk across the campus and hold hands.	4:40
	So to her this was important.	4:44
	If you had some affection for someone	4:47
	you should be able to show it so she felt that	4:49
	this was a cause so this was one of her first causes at Shaw	4:51
	and my first memory of Shaw.	4:56
	So I just wanted to throw that in	4:58
	so you will understand that this legacy goes back	5:00
	many, many, many years.	5:04
	Now initially what I'd like to do	5:06
	is to let the two panelists introduce themselves	5:08
	and tell you something about them	5:11
	and then we will discuss some of the legacies	5:13
	that various people might think should be given to Aunt Ella	5:17
	and then we would like to ask a few people from the audience	5:21
	who had an opportunity to work with her	5:24
	to also give a few of their ideas related to the subject.	5:26
	If you will remember being in a meeting with Aunt Ella,	5:32
	she always said we are having this meeting,	5:36
	we're together and I want you to think about	5:39
	what you're going to do after this meeting.	5:42
	So while you're doing this, I want you to think	5:44
	of what we're going to do after this meeting.	5:47
	So I want to introduce first the panelists	5:50
	and then they will tell you something about themselves	5:54
	and then we will continue and I will take over after that.	5:56
	Thank you.	5:59
-	Good morning.	6:16
Audience	Good morning.	6:16
-	I usually don't do my greeting in this manner	6:18
	but because we're running about an hour late,	6:24
	I'm going to modify my porch.	6:28
	I do want to say thank you for the opportunity	6:36
	for being a participant in this most appropriate	6:40
	and necessary event.	6:45
	Appropriate and necessary event.	6:49
	And in the African tradition	6:56
	always at a gathering this sort invite those of us present	7:00
	to both acknowledge the ancestors,	7:08
	those are no longer with us, those who paved the way,	7:13
	those who went before us.	7:19
	I'd like to acknowledge their presence	7:21
	because in keeping with my faith tradition	7:26
	I do believe they are present.	7:29
	I do believe that Mrs. Baker is very much present	7:33
	this morning and very many others	7:39
	and so in acknowledgement and welcome	7:43
	to this invisible cloud of witnesses	7:50
	I invite you to join me and just take a moment	7:56
	and call the name of one that you remember.	8:00
	Usually we do a moment of silence	8:06
	in memory, respect et cetera.	8:11
	I say do a moment of silence and then	8:14
	the one or ones that you remember.	8:19
	Say where we can all hear you,	8:23
	the name of one of those people.	8:27
	Call their names.	8:30
	There's a thing in the African tradition that says	8:32
	as long as the names are called, they're with us.	8:34
	So I invite you now to take a moment of silence	8:39
	and I will break the silence by calling the name	8:44
	of the one whom I'm welcoming this morning.	8:47
	Acknowledging and welcoming.	8:51
	Mrs. Baker.	9:04
	Thank you.	9:10
	Thank you.	9:14
	By all means, thank you.	9:17
	Thank you.	9:19
	Yes.	9:21
	Hotep.	9:24
	Shalom.	9:28
	Thank you, thank you,	9:32
	thank you.	9:36
	Shalom.	9:39
	Yes.	9:40
	Yes.	9:42
Male	Andy Moore.	9:46
-	Yes.	9:47
Female	Martin King.	9:48
-	By all means.	9:49
	Yes, yes.	9:51
	Yes, thank you.	9:54
	Shalom, peace.	9:57
	Hotep and thank you.	10:02
	Thank you for your enthusiasm	10:05
	and willingness to join us	10:07
	in this moment of acknowledgement and welcome	10:14
	and greetings both to the visible	10:19
	and the invisible.	10:21
	Alright now then, let's see.	10:25
	Where we go from here.	10:27
	The heart of my sharing really can be found	10:30
	in the anthology of the Mississippi Movement	10:33
	edited by Susan Hurwich, I don't know	10:38
	if Susan is here or not but this is it.	10:42
	I was invited to do an article for this anthology	10:48
	and I chose to do mine on Mrs. Baker	10:55
	you can really find the heart of my message there	11:04
	in the the event the lady starts to pull my dress tail	11:07
	or something back there because of the time limits.	11:10
	Preparing my tribute to Mrs. Baker	11:17
	was a journey within itself and it helped me to understand	11:20
	as Chuck McDew shared yesterday the deeper meaning	11:25
	of some of our spiritual teachings.	11:30
	For example, and I'd like to use this one	11:34
	because says what I feel.	11:37
	There is no greater love than this,	11:40
	that a person laid down his or her life for their friends,	11:45
	their brothers, their sisters.	11:53
	For me, this is the perfect description of Mrs. Baker.	11:59
	She laid down her life for you and for me	12:05
	and for the many who will come after us.	12:11
	She might have lived her life genius that she was	12:14
	in a much different more personally profitable manner	12:19
	but instead,	12:27
	she lived it for the liberation of her people	12:32
	which for Mrs. Baker meant all people	12:35
	and she has been	12:42
	a perfect example of one who lived	12:49
	the servant life as many who said	12:54
	who perceive me on this panel,	13:00
	they never heard her talk about her faith tradition.	13:02
	I say she didn't need to talk it.	13:06
	She walked her talk.	13:11
	I say again greater love hath no one than this.	13:15
	To lay down, to offer to give one's life	13:21
	for others, for one's friends.	13:24
	The legacy of Mrs. Baker was, is the legacy of love	13:29
	in its most unconditional wardrobe	13:38
	and now let me share with you what I wrote,	13:43
	what I discovered on my journey	13:47
	of defining Mrs. Baker.	13:51
	Describing this lady	13:55
	who was my mentor.	13:58
	My script got misplaced here.	14:19
	I'm sorry, give me a moment to find it.	14:24
	Should be right here.	14:29
	Ella Josephine Baker.	14:43
	Communicator, initiator, enabler and prophetess.	14:45
	And the word became flesh and dwelt among us.	14:54
	When I think of Mrs. Baker, when I attempt	15:01
	or I'm asked to describe her,	15:03
	the wild words come to mind and for me they say it all.	15:06
	For many of the writings of the Bible are perceived	15:12
	as stories about people and other beings	15:14
	from other timed and places but for me	15:17
	self described Christian activist amended to	15:20
	spiritual activists.	15:25
	The Bible is a guide book.	15:27
	A handbook, a blue print on becoming.	15:28
	Consequently, the opening statement	15:35
	"And the word became flesh and dwelt among us"	15:37
	is an attempt to give context to my offering	15:44
	only about Mrs. Baker.	15:49
	I'm not really sure when first Mrs. Baker	15:52
	and by the way she was always Mrs. Baker to me	15:55
	as my cousin Joyce indicated for her when she was here	15:57
	I believe yesterday.	16:02
	What is clearly remembered is the mutual respect	16:04
	and affection that we shared	16:07
	and the knowledge of our being kindred spirits.	16:09
	Remembered too is a tremendous admiration I had for her	16:12
	and the equally endless inspiration she was	16:17
	and continues to be for me.	16:21
	As a communicator Mrs. Baker was second to none.	16:24
	She clearly understood the importance	16:28
	of effective communication and its elements:	16:30
	speech, attitudes, actions and had the ability	16:34
	to relate both appropriately and positively	16:38
	to the target audience.	16:41
	Mrs. Baker said so well in referring to her experience	16:45
	with the stUdent coordinating committee.	16:49
	She said, "I had no difficulty relating to the young people.	16:54
	"I spoke their language in terms of the meaning	16:59
	"of what they had to say.	17:01
	"I didn't change my speech pattern	17:03
	"and they didn't have to change their speech pattern	17:06
	"and we were able to communicate."	17:10
	Mrs. Baker was equally proficient in communicating	17:13
	with whatever segment of the society	17:16
	with which she was interacting.	17:18
	Her secret of having the ability to talk with people	17:21
	and not at or about them.	17:28
	As Mrs. Baker put it in an interview,	17:33
	"Your success depends on both your disposition,"	17:35
	personality that is,	17:37
	"And your capacity to sort of stimulate people	17:41
	"and how you carry yourself in terms of	17:45
	"not being above people."	17:49
	Truly she was a great communicator.	17:53
	As an initiator, Mrs. Baker exhibited again and again	17:57
	her ability to move ideas, dreams,	18:02
	strategies and people from paper and read it to reality.	18:05
	Each of the major civil rights organizations	18:10
	and many other significant groups and agencies	18:13
	were beneficiaries of her unique ability	18:15
	to define the need, develop the strategies	18:18
	and implement actions to meet the need.	18:21
	She was a savior and a redeemer according to Victoria,	18:26
	to the National Association	18:36
	for the Advancement of Colored People.	18:38
	Commonly know as the NWACP	18:41
	at all levels of the organization.	18:46
	At one time or another, she inspired and prodded Dr. King	18:49
	to call the meeting of the south key black leaders	18:54
	which resulted in the formation	18:58
	of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference,	18:59
	the first southern based, south wide civilized organization.	19:01
	She was the key person in support of the formation	19:05
	and organization or the student organization non-violent	19:09
	coordinating committee.	19:14
	The student organization that energized and inspired	19:15
	Southern black communities from the Mississippi Delta	19:21
	and across the South to stand up	19:23
	and take responsibility for their lives.	19:25
	She was there when the idea of organizing	19:29
	an alternative political party evolved,	19:31
	following the 1963 successful vote.	19:34
	The Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party	19:39
	which became a model for effective	19:41
	independent political organizing and action	19:45
	and it affected the abolition	19:49
	of all white Democratic Party in Mississippi.	19:52
	Therefore, altering the direction of the Democratic party	19:56
	in the state of Mississippi and all across America.	20:01
	The list goes on.	20:05
	Mrs. Baker, the initiator was called into service	20:07
	in many diverse communities of our society	20:11
	to include federal government agencies.	20:14
	As an initiator she had few peers and left as a legacy	20:17
	untold numbers of innovators, many of who	20:21
	are seated here this morning and who are in attendance	20:25
	at this gathering.	20:27
	I believe that Mrs. Baker's most profound contribution	20:29
	was that of enabler.	20:32
	She had the ability to inspire people	20:35
	of every imaginable ill.	20:38
	This genius flowed from her deep faith in people's capacity	20:40
	to do what is necessary to respond to their needs	20:44
	and to resolve the contradictions of their lives	20:47
	once they obtain the understanding, acquire the information	20:50
	and the support person or system	20:54
	to work and share with them.	20:57
	Mrs. Baker believed, insisted that the salvation of a person	21:00
	and people must come from them	21:04
	but the struggle must be engaged by the struggler	21:09
	in cooperation with significant others,	21:11
	having the compassion and needed elements	21:16
	which they themselves do not possess.	21:19
	She was equipped by training, experience, courage	21:21
	and compassion to offer and share the missing elements	21:24
	where indicated.	21:29
	Thus she assisted people in discovering their own gifts	21:31
	and talents and to release these	21:34
	into the larger community.	21:36
	This deep conviction and belief in giving of oneself	21:38
	to the development of the larger community	21:42
	was her way of being "B-E-I-N-G"	21:44
	Her way of being.	21:51
	In so doing she inspired created	21:53
	a broad body of leadership, expands the country	21:56
	and reaches into every segment of the society.	22:00
	Mrs. Baker the enabler dedicated her life to the premise	22:04
	that a strong people have no need for strong leaders.	22:08
	Finally, Mrs. Baker was a prophetess.	22:15
	One who envisioned the future,	22:20
	predicted possible outcomes of situations,	22:23
	conditions and events and called to accountability	22:26
	all whose lives touched hers,	22:30
	imploring us to vision the impossible,	22:32
	the not yet.	22:37
	To define the contradictions,	22:39
	to develop proposals and strategies	22:41
	to overcome and eliminate the blocks or contradictions.	22:43
	To determine the tactics required	22:47
	to actualize the proposals,	22:49
	to implement the tactics that will release	22:52
	the impossible dream into the possible.	22:55
	The ears capital,	22:58
	eye capital.	23:00
	Today Mrs. Baker's prophecy, her conviction	23:02
	os a strong enabled people standing up	23:07
	and taking responsibility for their destinies	23:09
	is taking place in communities around the globe.	23:11
	As far ways, Eastern Europe, South Africa et cetera.	23:16
	The great civil rights campaign of the 50s and 60s	23:22
	inspired people under oppressive regimes	23:26
	to take part and deliver themselves by their own	23:28
	collective actions in unbelievable time frames.	23:31
	People would say, "No way can you do this or that	23:35
	"in this amount of time,"	23:38
	but they have done so.	23:40
	I do not consider it an exaggeration to say that	23:42
	the long and white shadow Mrs. Baker may very well	23:44
	have influenced the actions taking place in South Africa.	23:48
	As we celebrate in these times,	23:53
	sharing our impressions and experiences	23:58
	of living in her time and her world	24:01
	it seems to me that the one word which has it all together	24:04
	is educator.	24:07
	In all of different areas that Mrs. Baker served,	24:10
	under all of the different hats that she wore,	24:12
	she taught.	24:15
	She taught a new set of the three Rs.	24:18
	Relationships, first and respect differences,	24:24
	responsibility for ours and all life	24:32
	and risk-taking so as to free rather than control people.	24:38
	The greatest tribute that we can pay Mrs. Baker	24:47
	is to be like her.	24:50
	Commit our lives to becoming the embodied words of love,	24:54
	justice, freedom and peace.	25:00
	Let me end this sharing with an adage	25:11
	that encapsulates the legacy of Mrs. Baker for me.	25:15
	Accomplishing task through people	25:22
	is a different paradigm than building a people	25:26
	through the accomplishment of task.	25:31
	With one, you get things done.	25:36
	With the other, you get them done	25:40
	with far greater creativity,	25:43
	synergy and effectiveness and in the process	25:46
	you build the capacity to do more in the future as well.	25:51
	Thank you.	26:01
	(applause)	26:03
-	As everyone might have known, initially	26:14
	when the conference was held at Shaw	26:17
	Aunt Ella wanted to make sure that the young people	26:20
	would be involved in the activities.	26:23
	There were some people who felt that	26:25
	it should not be that way but she always felt that	26:29
	the youth should be involved.	26:32
	They should be able to make their mistakes	26:34
	and learn from them.	26:36
	They should have some assistance from the old people	26:38
	and at this point, I wanted to introduce	26:40
	one of the people who worked with her in this program	26:42
	and one of the people that she called her child.	26:48
	Each of the young people that she worked with	26:52
	were considered her children so at this point	26:54
	I want introduce you to one of her children.	26:57
	(applause)	27:04
-	I think what I would like to say is that	27:23
	Tony Morrison has a phrase	27:32
	characterizing	27:36
	some of the movement people and she said	27:41
	they did the walk in the trees.	27:44
	So Ella did the walk of the trees for us	27:49
	and as I think about her walk, there are three ways	27:58
	that I think it was	28:05
	ways for us to look at it.	28:13
	One was that there's a way to live in this country	28:15
	and struggle.	28:23
	The second was that the struggle	28:28
	should be radical in her sense that	28:32
	you go to the root of something.	28:38
	And in that way we're thinking about the people	28:47
	that we struggle with and so Ella taught us	28:51
	to struggle with the people at the bottom.	28:56
	And then the third way was a sense which Jackie	29:05
	reminds us of, our sense of family	29:14
	that in this walk, that you don't sacrifice family.	29:19
	So those are the three legacies for the that	29:30
	you have this long, long walk	29:36
	and you learn how to do it.	29:41
	You're in struggle and you consciously in struggle	29:47
	and you can carve out a life	29:51
	in this country in struggle.	29:56
	Your struggle should be radical.	30:01
	It should go to the root of some problem.	30:06
	And it should work with the people who are at the bottom	30:11
	and you should carve out as you go your family.	30:17
	Thank you.	30:23
	(applause)	30:25
-	Now as I said, I want to include some of the people	30:35
	in the audience who might want to add something	30:40
	and then I will have a slight discussion regarding this	30:45
	on any people who would want to include anything.	30:49
	I always want to include anyone that wants to be	30:53
	but do not feel pressured.	30:56
	Only if you'd like to.	30:59
	If not, what I wanted to include.	31:02
	Oh I'm sorry.	31:06
Male	This is the second session going to be held?	31:07
-	Yes, it will be.	31:10
	I'm going to limit this so that each one can have	31:11
	their own sessions.	31:14
	I'm sorry.	31:16
	We were so delayed in time so we will include everyone.	31:17
	Yes.	31:23
Female	I just wanted to know if Ms. Diane	31:25
	whether she's with us.	31:27
	(applause)	31:32
-	Thank you.	31:41
	Now as it has often been that	31:43
	Mrs. Baker and I will attempt to do that,	31:47
	Mrs. Baker was not well known.	31:50
	A lot of people didn't know her	31:53
	and there's a reason for that.	31:55
	It's because she felt that her job	31:57
	was to help as Bob stated the people who wanted to join	32:01
	as a unit and work and oftentimes people would say,	32:06
	"There's nothing that I can do.	32:10
	"I didn't go to college, I didn't do this	32:13
	"I can't do that,"	32:16
	so she would always find something that the person could do	32:17
	to feel included an I'll give you an example	32:21
	of a project that she had in New York city	32:24
	which was to get the community involved in school the system	32:27
	and at numerous meetings that I would attend with her	32:31
	and do my homework in the back of the room	32:35
	she would say to the people that	32:38
	we're all gonna do this together	32:40
	and someone might stand and say again	32:42
	that I can't do anything so she would say,	32:44
	"Can you lick a stamp?	32:48
	"Can you go to the post office?	32:50
	"Can you babysit so that those people	32:52
	"who want to come to the meeting can,"	32:54
	to show everyone that everyone must be included	32:57
	and I also think that's why in the 60s	33:00
	everything was so successful because everyone had a job.	33:04
	Your job could be transporting people	33:10
	who were not riding a bus.	33:12
	Your job could be feeding people	33:14
	who had nothing to eat or no place to stay in people's homes	33:16
	so an effort to work with people,	33:22
	I think one of the main things that we must remember	33:25
	is that she wanted to inclUde everyone	33:28
	and there's a phrase that is used	33:33
	that we have the grass root people	33:35
	and Aunt Ella felt that she was one of those people	33:39
	and if you think about the root of a tree	33:43
	the roots are the parts of the tree	33:46
	that provide nourishment and strength	33:51
	and those branches at the top rely on those roots	33:55
	and if those roots are not very strong	34:00
	then the tree will not be very strong.	34:02
	So the people who may be on those top branches	34:06
	must remember that the people at the bottom of the tree	34:09
	are the ones who are supporting them	34:13
	so when you think of being a grass root person,	34:16
	remember that that's a very, very strong person.	34:20
	Again we are beginning to see that	34:25
	the young people want more to be involved and they shOuld be	34:28
	and all of us should remember at the time that we felt that	34:33
	we wanted to be involved and the elders	34:37
	wouldn't allow us to do that	34:39
	so now as we become elders, we must remember that	34:41
	we have to allow the youth to begin to take over	34:44
	and as Aunt Ella woUld say,	34:48
	she would never indicate that the young person was wrong.	34:50
	She might feel that what you were saying	34:56
	was absolutely wrong but she was able to get you	34:58
	to understand that it was wrong by her conversation	35:02
	and a contribution to whatever you were suggesting	35:07
	and making it feel that you were the one	35:10
	who were able to come to the conclusion	35:13
	that it should be done in another way.	35:15
	So that in itself is an art.	35:18
	Being able to get people to realize that they themselves	35:21
	may have not been doing the right thing at first	35:24
	but due to growth and development, they have.	35:28
	There was a time that there were groups,	35:30
	older people who felt that the younger group	35:39
	should not be involved and I know that there were times	35:42
	when Aunt Ella had nightly meetings	35:45
	discussing the fact that she would stand up	35:48
	and support the young people at all times no matter what	35:52
	so I think one of the legacies is that	35:57
	she was able to organize and to organize	36:00
	with the purpose to organize those people	36:03
	who are most interested, give everyone an opportunity	36:06
	to be included and be successful at the end.	36:10
	So I think one of the legacies would be in my estimation	36:15
	the fact that she was an organizer as stated.	36:19
	She felt anything did you did, you should do it	36:24
	to the best of your abiLity, no matter what it might be	36:28
	oftentimes she would say,	36:32
	"If you have a job, you work at it	36:34
	"to the best of your ability."	36:37
	If that evening you decide that you're going out to a party	36:38
	then you want to enjoy that to the best of your ability	36:42
	So whatever you do, do it the best that you can	36:46
	and at the end you'll find out that you have succeeded.	36:50
	Oftentimes you will take on a job and	36:55
	we will attempt to do too many jobs.	36:57
	That's very difficult to have too many jobs.	37:00
	To focus on one job at a time is most important	37:03
	and to do that is difficult at this time	37:08
	because we're branching out to different things each day	37:12
	but let's all begin to think of	37:15
	focusing on one particular thing,	37:16
	getting those people who are interested	37:19
	in what we are interested in and working towards	37:21
	a particular goal.	37:23
	I have been told that we have an announcement	37:25
	by Hansen Jeffreys and I wanted to allow that	37:31
	before we end it because I might forget.	37:36
	Wold you please do that now.	37:38
Hansen	Good Morning.	37:43
Audience	Goo morning.	37:44
-	Friday group center leadership session	37:47
	decided that we would focus on one task	37:51
	that being the participant profile	37:54
	in an effort to facilitate communication	37:59
	at end of the conference and to ease som of the burden	38:01
	on our already overburdened but much successful	38:04
	conference organizers.	38:07
	Hopefully you should have received one of these	38:08
	as you walked in.	38:11
	If you didn't, someone will be coming down the aisles	38:13
	to pass one to you	38:15
	and if you would just take a moment to fill it out	38:17
	and for those of you who have already filled it out,	38:20
	if you could pass it to the aisles,	38:22
	we will now come and collect them.	38:23
	For those who are not here, if you could please	38:26
	spread the word that we the are doing this	38:29
	and we'll keep these around so that	38:32
	we can keep in touch afterwards.	38:34
	Thank you.	38:35
-	As Aunt Ella would say thank you young man.	38:38
	(laughs)	38:39
	We can see that the young man is focusing on tests.	38:42
	We are very happy about that.	38:47
	I think there's a young lady in the back	38:49
	who doesn't have one so we want to make sure that	38:50
	everyone gets one please.	38:52
	(murmuring)	38:55
	(laughs)	39:00
-	Don't use that old word.	39:03
	We don't use that word.	39:04
	The more mature people, right.	39:08
	(murmuring)	39:12
	I didn't understand the first part about the younger people	39:23
	and the more mature people.	39:26
	What did you want?	39:28
Male	She meant younger and older students.	39:30
-	Okay, thank you.	39:31
	(laughs)	39:33
	I think that they want to make sure that	39:35
	this is filled out so they would have	39:37
	some way of keeping in touch and hopefully	39:39
	everyone will ever so often get together for support.	39:42
	I'm going to end with a statement regarding	39:47
	one of Aunt Ella's favorite songs	39:51
	and it has gotten to be a favorite of mine	39:55
	and the song is This Little Light of Mine	39:58
	and sometimes in driving, I hum it to myself	40:02
	and I always like to sort of end things with that song	40:07
	because I want everyone to think of	40:11
	where your light is going to shine.	40:13
	There are many places that your light can shine.	40:17
	It can shine at home,	40:20
	it can shine in your neighborhood.	40:22
	It can shine in your job, it can shine i=on the street,	40:23
	it can shine any place that you might be in attendance	40:26
	and sometimes we have to make a definite effort	40:31
	to make that light shine.	40:35
	Sometimes we get a little down and we say	40:38
	that I'm not up to this or I don't feel like doing this	40:40
	but you think of your light	40:44
	and the accumulation of all the lights	40:46
	and how bright things could be and how much better	40:49
	the world could be because all of us	40:52
	have something to contribute.	40:55
	It may not be my interest.	40:57
	My interest may not be your interest	40:59
	but all of us have something to contribute	41:01
	so I want if you don't mind and I'm not a singer	41:05
	I would like if we could just end with that song.	41:08
	This Little Light of Mine	41:12
	and I will also just point a couple of people to tell me	41:15
	where your light is going to shine.	41:19
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	41:22
-	Thank you.	41:25
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	41:28
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	41:31
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	41:34
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	41:38
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	41:42
	♪ Let it shine, let it shine ♪	41:45
	♪ Let it shine ♪	41:48
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	41:53
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	41:56
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	41:58
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:02
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	42:05
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:09
	♪ Let it shine, let it shine ♪	42:11
	♪ Let it shine ♪	42:15
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:22
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	42:25
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:29
	♪ Tell everybody ♪	42:32
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:35
	♪ Let it shine, let it shine ♪	42:38
	♪ Let it shine ♪	42:42
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:48
	♪ Everywhere I go ♪	42:51
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	42:55
	♪ Everywhere I go ♪	42:58
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	43:02
	♪ Let it shine, let it shine ♪	43:04
	♪ Let it shine ♪	43:08
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	43:14
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	43:17
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	43:20
	♪ This little light of mine ♪	43:24
	♪ I'm gonna let it shine ♪	43:27
	♪ Let it shine, let it shine ♪	43:31
	♪ Let it shine ♪	43:34
	Okay thank you so much.	43:38
	(applause)	43:39
	I'm very sorry we had to be delayed but the last minute	43:41
	I understand we had to move to another facility	43:43
	so in order to include the next group	43:46
	we're going to stop at this point and hopefully	43:50
	we will all meet at the luncheon and be able	43:53
	to have some conversation.	43:56
	Yes, we have a--	43:58
	(murmuring)	44:00
	No no, we are only going to have a stretch.	44:01
	Those people who'd like to stand and stretch may stretch.	44:06
	We want to continue right away.	44:09
	(murmuring)	44:15

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Tape 12, 2000 April

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April 23, 2000

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One of sixteen digital videocassette tapes documenting the 13 April 2000 conference, "We Who Believe in Freedom Cannot Rest: Ella J. Baker ('Miss Baker') and the Birth of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee," held at Shaw University, in Raleigh, NC. The conference celebrated the organization's 40th anniversary.

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