Leet County, GA mass meetings excerpts, no date, 1960s
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(clapping) | 0:05 | |
(chatting) | 0:09 | |
♪ I'm gonna tell them how you treat me ♪ | 0:14 | |
♪ Oh, I'm gonna tell them how you treat me ♪ | 0:19 | |
♪ One of these days, hallelujah ♪ | 0:23 | |
♪ I'm gonna tell them how you treat me ♪ | 0:25 | |
♪ Oh, tell them how you treat me one of these days ♪ | 0:31 | |
♪ I'm gonna get my freedom ♪ | 0:38 | |
♪ Oh, I'm gonna get my freedom here of the days ♪ | 0:43 | |
♪ Hallelujah ♪ | 0:49 | |
♪ I'm gonna get my freedom here ♪ | 0:50 | |
♪ I'm gonna get my freedom ♪ | 0:55 | |
♪ One these days, hallelujah ♪ | 0:58 | |
♪ We're gonna eat at the freedom table ♪ | 1:02 | |
♪ We're gonna eat at the freedom table ♪ | 1:08 | |
♪ One of these days, hallelujah ♪ | 1:11 | |
♪ We're gonna eat at the freedom table ♪ | 1:14 | |
♪ Eat at the freedom table one of these days ♪ | 1:19 | |
- | Well, well. | 1:23 |
♪ Guide my feet, Lord, while I run this race, oh ♪ | 1:31 | |
♪ Guide my feet while I run this race ♪ | 1:39 | |
♪ For I don't want to run this race in vain ♪ | 1:47 | |
♪ Hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 1:56 | |
♪ Hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 2:05 | |
♪ Hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 2:14 | |
♪ For I don't want to run this race in vain ♪ | 2:22 | |
♪ Guide my soul while I run this race ♪ | 2:30 | |
♪ Guide my soul while I run this race ♪ | 2:38 | |
♪ Guide my soul while I run this race ♪ | 2:46 | |
♪ For I don't want to run this race in vain ♪ | 2:55 | |
♪ Fix my heart while I run this race ♪ | 3:03 | |
♪ Fix my heart while I run this race ♪ | 3:10 | |
♪ Fix my heart while I run this race ♪ | 3:19 | |
♪ For I don't want to run this race in vain ♪ | 3:26 | |
♪ Well, hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 3:35 | |
♪ Hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 3:44 | |
♪ Hold my hand while I run this race ♪ | 3:52 | |
♪ For I don't want to run this race in vain ♪ | 4:01 | |
(talking) | 4:15 | |
- | Let us to bow our heads in a word of prayer. | 4:20 |
Oh, gracious king, as we come together, | 4:22 | |
we pray that thou would bless our coming together. | 4:25 | |
Bless this people, we pray that thou would give | 4:29 | |
us strength to give us courage to carry on, | 4:32 | |
to fight on and on until the victory is won. | 4:35 | |
This we ask in the name of thy son, Christ Jesus, amen. | 4:39 | |
- | Amen. | 4:43 |
- | At this time, I'd like to say, welcome everybody | 4:48 |
to the home of the brave. | 4:50 | |
I think I use that name because of what we people | 4:52 | |
in Terrell County went through in order to get | 4:54 | |
the few people that we have gotten registered to vote. | 4:58 | |
- | Amen. | 5:01 |
- | Because that's our primary objective, | 5:02 |
and it's a very hard one, although it shouldn't be. | 5:03 | |
But it's a very hard one. | 5:07 | |
(clapping) | 5:13 | |
(coughing and thunking drowning out speaker) | 5:16 | |
- | I have been in here a while. | 5:21 |
I've been here six hours. | 5:23 | |
And I've been asking people about freedom. | 5:24 | |
Everybody in Terrell County's afraid to talk about freedom. | 5:28 | |
I talk with some of the people, strangers. | 5:32 | |
I went up to some of the people's houses and ask 'em, | 5:34 | |
they said, "You one of them Freedom Riders." | 5:37 | |
They say, (mumbling) "You come here, so we had to move." | 5:40 | |
I said no, I said, "Well, I'm not a Freedom Rider." | 5:42 | |
I said, "I'm in here trying to do the will of God. | 5:44 | |
"Trying to wait for the Lord." | 5:47 | |
I'm not a Freedom Rider. | 5:48 | |
I'm trying to hold up and get freedom for myself. | 5:50 | |
(exclaiming) | 5:54 | |
My mother, my grandmother, and they, | 5:54 | |
all of them, died enslaved. | 5:57 | |
Now, I'm fighting for my rights. | 5:59 | |
Give me my rights, please. | 6:01 | |
The people in Terrell County need to wake up. | 6:04 | |
I tell you what we need to do. | 6:06 | |
We need to go on over here to Dawson and fall down | 6:07 | |
on our knees and ask God to help message | 6:10 | |
like He did in Albany. | 6:12 | |
That same God in Albany is over here in-- | 6:13 | |
(clapping) in Terrell County | 6:16 | |
That same God can come over here in Terrell County. | 6:19 | |
Let's all get on the bus, the Freedom Riders or not, | 6:22 | |
Let's all get on the bus and go to town | 6:25 | |
and fall down on our knees and ask God to have mercy! | 6:27 | |
And that we ask God on it, from our heart, | 6:30 | |
he will have mercy! | 6:34 | |
We can't do nothing without Jesus! | 6:36 | |
We got to have God in front of us! | 6:39 | |
We scared! | 6:42 | |
I'm not afraid! | 6:43 | |
They can kill me! | 6:44 | |
Listen. | 6:46 | |
I got something over here I know somebody know | 6:46 | |
something about it. | 6:49 | |
They say you walk around here, you going to jail. | 6:50 | |
If I go to jail, I'm satisfied. | 6:54 | |
Jesus gonna fight my boss, right there. | 6:56 | |
He will kinda need you to wake up. | 6:59 | |
Awe, but listen, I tell you what we need to do. | 7:02 | |
Let's go to Dawson with this. | 7:04 | |
If it caused the Freedom Riders, and pray a prayer | 7:06 | |
and ask God to have mercy. | 7:09 | |
Yes, fall on down on our knees in Lee Street. | 7:12 | |
Right there in front of the courthouse. | 7:15 | |
It ain't far from the jail, and ask God to have mercy. | 7:17 | |
And give us freedom. | 7:20 | |
Yeah, they call you white. | 7:23 | |
Call out some name for him. | 7:25 | |
But now, listen, your skin's a little bit brighter | 7:27 | |
than mine, but it's all you. | 7:29 | |
If you cut me tonight and I bleed red blood | 7:32 | |
that's like you bleed. | 7:34 | |
Let's wake up and get it! | 7:36 | |
Let's wake up and get it, here! | 7:37 | |
Let's wake up here this time! | 7:40 | |
I'm with you! | 7:43 | |
(clapping drowning out speaker) | 7:44 | |
no saving us but prayer. | 7:46 | |
I've been (inaudible) a slave | 7:47 | |
I want my child to come up with a education. | 7:50 | |
I didn't get much. | 7:52 | |
- | So true, now. | 7:54 |
- | Mm-hmm, but I want my mind to come on up and get it. | 7:55 |
I'm willing to fight for mine. | 7:58 | |
Thank you. | 8:00 | |
- | All right! | |
(clapping) | 8:01 | |
(mumbling) | 8:04 | |
- | Freedom Riders! | 8:06 |
Let's go to Dawson and ask God to have mercy. | 8:07 | |
That's a public place. | 8:10 | |
He had mercy over in Dougherty County. | 8:12 | |
That same God over there. | 8:14 | |
Thank you. | 8:15 | |
(clapping) | 8:16 | |
(mumbling) | 8:21 | |
When the time come, he called me a Freedom Rider. | 8:22 | |
If I go to jail, I'm-- | 8:24 | |
(clapping) | 8:26 | |
(mumbling) | 8:28 | |
- | Tuesday, I'm going over to Dawson. | 8:31 |
There's a gentlemen here, and another one. | 8:37 | |
And I done my best to get registered. | 8:44 | |
I done my best. | 8:51 | |
I done all that I could do. | 8:53 | |
I don't know whether it's gonna stand up or not. | 8:58 | |
I attempted to vote once before, | 9:02 | |
'bout 30 or 40 years ago. | 9:08 | |
And I was kicked out. | 9:12 | |
And I don't know, they may kick me out now. | 9:16 | |
(laughing and chatting) | 9:19 | |
I hope they won't, but I've been kicked out before | 9:21 | |
from voting and it's gone just about towards | 9:26 | |
I'm done gonna go now. | 9:30 | |
(mumbling) | 9:32 | |
I went up to Dawson and I registered. | 9:37 | |
I don't know whether it'll stand up or not. | 9:43 | |
(mumbling) | 9:46 | |
But I did. | 9:47 | |
I couldn't get no, there's some things about it, | 9:51 | |
I didn't think I was going to be able to do | 9:54 | |
and they wouldn't help me none. | 9:57 | |
Throwed the book down, take it and go ahead, | 10:02 | |
and if you can do anything, do it. | 10:05 | |
So I think I done very well. | 10:07 | |
(chatting and clapping) | 10:11 | |
I think I done (clapping drowning out speaker). | 10:12 | |
I think I done well enough for it to stand. | 10:16 | |
I believe I did. | 10:20 | |
(clapping) | 10:23 | |
- | When we think of the Albany Movement, we do not think | 10:41 |
of Albany alone. | 10:44 | |
We think of Southwest Georgia. | 10:47 | |
Even though we feel that we are only, let's say | 10:51 | |
a couple thousand strong there in Albany, | 10:57 | |
we start thinking about how strong we really are. | 11:02 | |
We think of Lee, Sumter, Terrell, and all the other counties | 11:07 | |
because we are all working for the same thing. | 11:13 | |
(mm-hmm) | 11:17 | |
There's one thing I would like to say to you. | 11:19 | |
That is keep going. | 11:22 | |
If we had stopped, and we've had many ups and downs, | 11:25 | |
if we had stopped, we would not have been | 11:29 | |
where we are today. | 11:32 | |
- | That's the truth. | 11:33 |
- | If possible, follow your leader. | 11:35 |
Whoever the leader is, give him support, stand behind him | 11:39 | |
and work with him. | 11:44 | |
A few word about the SNCC workers. | 11:48 | |
I don't think I have met a more dedicated group | 11:51 | |
since I have been, well, here these 30 years. | 11:55 | |
(laughing) | 12:01 | |
Certainly when they came into Albany, | 12:08 | |
and I think my husband and I went to the first | 12:10 | |
or second meeting, and I knew then that I was going | 12:12 | |
to stick with this. | 12:16 | |
I have (mumbling). | 12:18 | |
I would like for you to stick with them. | 12:20 | |
Give them your support, and in turn, they will support you. | 12:23 | |
Thank you. | 12:26 | |
(clapping) | 12:27 | |
- | And in conclusion that many of you might not have heard | 12:40 |
what happened at a place in Albany named | 12:43 | |
Bob's Candy Company, that there are not | 12:46 | |
as many colored employees. | 12:48 | |
But this was an outgrowth of the Albany Movement | 12:50 | |
that a lady was fired there because her child was one | 12:52 | |
of the children who attempted to integrate | 12:56 | |
the white high school in Albany. | 12:57 | |
And all of them walked out, and it was just wonderful | 13:00 | |
to see that sort of spirit and that sort of unanimity. | 13:04 | |
And many of them might not have wanted to walk out, | 13:07 | |
but they knew that their black sisters and brothers, | 13:10 | |
they could never live with any peace if they didn't walk | 13:13 | |
out of that place. | 13:16 | |
But I'll say this, I think of one good brother. | 13:17 | |
You know, we got a lot of brothers who don't believe | 13:20 | |
in what we are fighting for in Albany and in other places. | 13:24 | |
But one of the good brothers, he was telling me, | 13:26 | |
he didn't believe in the Albany Movement too much. | 13:29 | |
He was seeing them, oh, he'd say, the sister amazef him. | 13:32 | |
He said, "I'm amazed at how much better things are | 13:34 | |
"at Bob's now, and it has proved one thing to me." | 13:37 | |
He said, "I walked out of that place and now I hold | 13:40 | |
"all these bills, and I wasn't thinking about family, | 13:42 | |
"I wasn't thinking about nothing else." | 13:45 | |
He said, "And it proved to me when you really want something | 13:46 | |
"and you believe in it, you gotta give up everything | 13:50 | |
"to try and get it." | 13:52 | |
(audience exclaiming) | 13:54 | |
So I hope that we will fight with that kind of spirit. | 13:55 | |
Thank you. | 13:57 | |
(clapping) | 13:58 | |
- | One of the main reasons we sit | 14:10 |
in this tent together tonight is addressing | 14:14 | |
how our country is fundamentally built up | 14:20 | |
that it's political | 14:25 | |
And one of the great lessons we learned, | 14:28 | |
in this section of the country, was that with the vote | 14:32 | |
we could have, had we had the vote, put in | 14:40 | |
a man who would've stood up for us and represented us. | 14:46 | |
Without a doubt. | 14:52 | |
But because we didn't have the vote, we didn't have | 14:55 | |
the voice to say we want this man | 14:59 | |
to represent us in government. | 15:07 | |
We fightin' now, and we're moving inch by inch. | 15:12 | |
Out here in Terrell, out there in Sumter, and Lee, | 15:16 | |
and in Dougherty. | 15:21 | |
Many of you have heard of a man, spoke on TV. | 15:25 | |
Black man. | 15:31 | |
Spoke on TV about what he thought about politics | 15:33 | |
and economics and society, and all those big words. | 15:38 | |
Spoke out. | 15:44 | |
And we sat back and felt proud of this man | 15:47 | |
because here was a man, his face black, | 15:52 | |
was sitting up there dignified and running | 15:58 | |
for the office of City Commissioner, just like anybody else. | 16:02 | |
We were proud of him. | 16:08 | |
And we heard of his name, Thomas Chatmon. | 16:11 | |
We heard of his name on TV, and we heard | 16:14 | |
of his name on radio. | 16:17 | |
And we wondered about him. | 16:19 | |
We'd like to see him, we probably said to ourselves. | 16:21 | |
Well tonight, we have the chance to see and hear | 16:25 | |
this man in person. | 16:29 | |
Mr. Thomas C. Chatmon. | 16:31 | |
(clapping) | 16:33 | |
- | Mr. Sherrod, and all the SNCC workers. | 16:42 |
Ladies and gentlemen. | 16:45 | |
I'm very happy to be with you tonight. | 16:50 | |
I, too, am very, very much impressed by those | 16:55 | |
of you who are here. | 17:00 | |
I see Mr. Sherrod as a very good man to introduce you. | 17:03 | |
(mumbling and laughing) | 17:08 | |
It's a nice choice of words. | 17:11 | |
But in all seriousness, when I walked into this tent tonight | 17:15 | |
I thought about when I was a boy. | 17:17 | |
Now speaking about ground floors | 17:20 | |
I was reared in the country. | 17:22 | |
We lived in a cotton field. | 17:24 | |
My house was situated in the middle of the cotton field, | 17:26 | |
you see, and this tent reminds me of a tent | 17:29 | |
that I used to attend when I was a boy | 17:31 | |
to what they called the sanctified church. | 17:33 | |
Those people there were prayer and singing | 17:38 | |
as you are tonight. | 17:43 | |
They were praying and singing for freedom then. | 17:46 | |
And I said when I came into this tent, I said, | 17:51 | |
"Well, the Negroes are still praying and singing | 17:53 | |
"in tents for freedom." | 17:57 | |
Today I think the Negro is faced with one | 18:05 | |
of the greatest challenges of his time. | 18:08 | |
And that challenge is to save America. | 18:14 | |
- | Yes, Lord. | 18:17 |
- | I think that if America is to be saved, | 18:18 |
the Negro must save America. | 18:22 | |
How are we gonna save it? | 18:26 | |
I think the future of the Negro depends upon the ballot box | 18:27 | |
and the future of America depends upon the Negro. | 18:32 | |
(exclaiming) | 18:36 | |
Now we are engaged in Albany, Dougherty County, | 18:37 | |
Suffolk County, Lee County, Terrell County, | 18:43 | |
and I hope soon we'll be in Baker County, Mitchell County, | 18:46 | |
(inaudible) County and all these counties. | 18:48 | |
We must continue to press forward to try to teach | 18:51 | |
our people the importance of the ballot, | 18:55 | |
as Mr. Sherrod has pointed out to you. | 18:58 | |
Last year, when I ran for City Commissioner, | 19:01 | |
we had, I believe, 4,400 registered Negroes in Albany. | 19:04 | |
And I believe it was 11,080 whites. | 19:09 | |
Well, we, to be frank with you, we didn't think | 19:13 | |
4,000 votes could win over 11,000 votes. | 19:19 | |
But at least we could present a new image of the Negro | 19:23 | |
in this section of the country. | 19:28 | |
Now we can talk about college and (inaudible) | 19:34 | |
and (inaudible) as long as you want to talk. | 19:37 | |
But until you get enough votes to vote these people | 19:39 | |
out of office (exclaiming). | 19:43 | |
We will not be able to accomplish what we set out to. | 19:45 | |
I know that in order to lead a fulfilling life | 19:52 | |
and to speak with a mind that's (mumbling). | 19:56 | |
Again I would like to say to Mr Sherrod | 20:01 | |
Thanks very much for the invitation | 20:03 | |
I'm very proud to be here. | 20:04 | |
I will be back, and I hope you will come over to Dougherty, | 20:06 | |
I mean to Lee, to Sumter, to all these counties. | 20:11 | |
We must attain and show this type of unity | 20:15 | |
to encourage these people, give them more vigor | 20:18 | |
and enthusiasm and all that we might be able | 20:23 | |
to say this position so that when the fine day comes, | 20:26 | |
we can shoot and hit our targets | 20:30 | |
And our targets will be Zeke Matthews, (inaudible), Terrell | 20:33 | |
Lee, Dougherty County and all these corrupt politicians | 20:36 | |
in Southwest Georgia. | 20:41 | |
Thank you very much. | 20:43 | |
(clapping) | 20:44 | |
(clapping) | 20:58 | |
- | I'm not a speaker, I'm a preacher. | 21:00 |
(laughing) | 21:02 | |
If you would like to hear me preach tonight | 21:05 | |
If I'm just preachin'. | 21:09 | |
What I wanted to say, I welcome you all | 21:11 | |
to this tent, since the church has been destroyed. | 21:15 | |
- | The cause of this church being destroyed, | 21:21 |
was the congregation opened the doors for | 21:24 | |
as they called them, Freedom Riders. | 21:26 | |
(laughing) | 21:29 | |
Amen. | 21:30 | |
I've been pastor here this coming year, | 21:32 | |
kind of worshiping 30 years at this spot. | 21:37 | |
I have a good core group of officers. | 21:41 | |
So we opened the door for them to come in | 21:45 | |
that they hold a meeting. They closed them out every place | 21:48 | |
in Terrell County but not ours | 21:51 | |
That's why she's destroyed. | 21:55 | |
I heard that they were gonna burn it down, but I told them | 21:58 | |
if they burn it down, we're gonna build another one. | 22:00 | |
(clapping) | 22:03 | |
So they burnt down the building but they didn't burn | 22:08 | |
the church down. | 22:12 | |
(shouting) | 22:13 | |
Now, I'm way on up there in years, | 22:22 | |
but I'm tired of going to the back door. | 22:26 | |
(laughing and chatting) | 22:29 | |
The little time that I stay I want to go to the front door | 22:32 | |
- | All right. | 22:36 |
- | To get the saints. | 22:38 |
And if my wife, waiting to (inaudible) can't go | 22:39 | |
into the front door, I don't think she oughta work there. | 22:41 | |
(clapping) | 22:44 | |
(inaudible) white folks if we have | 22:49 | |
to go around to the back door instead of going in the front, | 22:51 | |
I think you ought to tell 'em come on out. | 22:53 | |
(clapping and exclaiming) | 22:56 | |
Isn't that right? | 22:57 | |
(exclaiming) | 22:58 | |
Amen. | 23:00 | |
So I'm saying to you, let's stand up here for the Lord. | 23:01 | |
The only way we going to get this thing completed, | 23:04 | |
(inaudible) just won't do. | 23:08 | |
(exclaiming) | 23:11 | |
You have to be sincere in what we do. | 23:13 | |
And put the Lord in front of the banner. | 23:15 | |
Isn't that right? | 23:18 | |
(exclaiming) | 23:19 | |
He brought Israel out with a strong hand. | 23:21 | |
And that same God that brought Israel out is here, too. | 23:24 | |
(exclaiming) | 23:28 | |
- | Y'all listen to Brother Tex. | 23:33 |
(shouting) | 23:34 | |
You can't hate the white man who | 23:37 | |
(talking drowning out speaker). | 23:40 | |
- | No! | 23:40 |
- | You gonna have to love him. | 23:43 |
Love them that (mumbling) | 23:44 | |
strike to use you (mumbling)! | 23:45 | |
- | Amen. | 23:47 |
- | Isn't that what the book says? | 23:49 |
I know we don't wanna do it, but you gonna have to do it. | 23:51 | |
- | Amen. | 23:54 |
- | Amen. | 23:56 |
Isn't that right? | 23:57 | |
Then the Lord will break down that separating wall | 23:59 | |
between the other man, and we get together. | 24:03 | |
- | All right, reverend! | 24:06 |
- | Okay, then. | 24:08 |
(speakers drowning each other out) | 24:14 | |
(clapping) | 24:19 | |
♪ No more jailhouse ♪ | 24:20 | |
♪ No more jailhouse ♪ | 24:23 | |
♪ No more jailhouse over me ♪ | 24:27 | |
♪ Not over me ♪ | 24:33 | |
♪ And before I'll be a slave, I'll be buried in my grave ♪ | 24:35 | |
♪ And go home to my Lord and be free ♪ | 24:45 | |
- | Oh freedom! | 24:54 |
♪ Oh freedom ♪ | 24:55 | |
♪ Oh freedom ♪ | 24:59 | |
♪ Oh freedom over me, over me ♪ | 25:04 | |
♪ And before I'll be a slave, I'll be buried in my grave ♪ | 25:12 | |
♪ And go home to my Lord and be free ♪ | 25:21 | |
- | Now the Martin Luther King of southwest Georgia, | 25:32 |
Dr. Reverend Johnson. | 25:36 | |
(clapping) | 25:39 | |
- | I don't know whether I like that introduction or not. | 25:46 |
(laughing) | 25:49 | |
To my colored friends (laughing), | 25:53 | |
and to you honorary colored folks, I want all of you | 25:59 | |
to know first of all that Zeke Matthews doesn't like | 26:04 | |
what's going on out here. | 26:07 | |
(laughing) | 26:09 | |
And I want you to know that Fred Chapel in Americus | 26:10 | |
does not like what's going on out here. | 26:14 | |
(exclaiming) | 26:16 | |
Colonel Campbell doesn't like it in Albany. | 26:17 | |
And I'm sure Mr. Short is a might unhappy man this evening | 26:21 | |
(laughing) | 26:26 | |
As a matter of fact, I think you're gonna make them | 26:29 | |
even more unhappy because you are trying to disturb | 26:34 | |
and upset our traditional Southern way of life. | 26:39 | |
I wonder sometime why it is that they act so stupidly | 26:45 | |
and have a difficult time understanding | 26:54 | |
what it is we want. | 26:56 | |
As story was told to me when I was in New York | 26:59 | |
not long ago about a little colored boy | 27:02 | |
who decided he wanted to see what it would be like | 27:07 | |
to be white for just a little while. | 27:09 | |
So he went home one evening and got down in the basement | 27:11 | |
and got in his daddy's lime and he powdered himself | 27:14 | |
all over and ran upstairs and he said, | 27:17 | |
"Mommy, Mommy, look at me, I'm a white boy." | 27:21 | |
And she took him down and tanned his hide good. | 27:25 | |
(laughing) | 27:27 | |
And when his daddy came home, Momma told Daddy | 27:29 | |
and Daddy took him into basement | 27:32 | |
and tanned his hide good again. | 27:33 | |
(laughing) | 27:35 | |
Went back upstairs and his momma asked him, said, | 27:38 | |
"Well, how was it to be white?" | 27:40 | |
(laughing) | 27:42 | |
He said, "Well, I see what it's all about. | 27:44 | |
"I was white for 15 minutes, and I hate | 27:47 | |
"two Negroes already." | 27:48 | |
(laughing and clapping) | 27:50 | |
You gonna have a dream of being a first-class citizen. | 27:53 | |
And his dream has been filled with nightmares | 27:57 | |
for many years past. | 27:59 | |
Many of us can remember with horror the infliction | 28:02 | |
of bodily harm and pain that has come to Negroes | 28:07 | |
down through the generations. | 28:10 | |
I can yet remember so vividly, and it hasn't been | 28:12 | |
too long ago, the Negro who was shot down | 28:15 | |
on the courthouse steps in Baker County | 28:18 | |
and was tied to the back of an automobile and dragged around | 28:21 | |
In this day and generation! | 28:24 | |
I can remember very vividly, as early as last year, | 28:27 | |
a Negro who was in jail in Bainbridge, Georgia, | 28:33 | |
because he said that he would vote against Marvin Griffin | 28:36 | |
if he was out of jail and could vote, was beaten and died. | 28:40 | |
I can remember too vividly an Emmett Till in Mississippi | 28:46 | |
who would not even reach the voting age | 28:52 | |
and would not be given the opportunity to go down | 28:54 | |
and put his name on the books. | 28:57 | |
He was deprived of the right to live, | 28:59 | |
and ultimately the right of being | 29:02 | |
a first-class American citizen | 29:04 | |
because he dared act like anybody else. | 29:07 | |
Because he dared to live and breathe as a Negro | 29:11 | |
in the state of Mississippi. | 29:16 | |
We live in a day and time when men can commit | 29:19 | |
such dastardly crimes and be given a license to do it. | 29:22 | |
A time when a sheriff like Johnson down in Baker County | 29:29 | |
can lynch a Negro and be elected to office | 29:32 | |
the next year. | 29:35 | |
A time when a man like Zeke Matthews can walk | 29:38 | |
into a church where a voter registration meeting is going on | 29:40 | |
and disrupt the service, create chaos and confusion, | 29:46 | |
and be licensed to carry that pistol | 29:51 | |
and still be the sheriff in the same county. | 29:54 | |
When we as Negroes have a dream! | 29:59 | |
Yes, these nightmares are in our dreams, | 30:02 | |
but we have, at the end of the dream, | 30:05 | |
a shining light that says on it, freedom. | 30:09 | |
Amd we know that that road to freedom is | 30:12 | |
a long and narrow road! | 30:15 | |
We know that on one side of it, there are briars | 30:19 | |
and bramble bushes, and we know on the other side | 30:21 | |
there are cottonmouth moccasins | 30:23 | |
and diamondback rattlesnakes. | 30:25 | |
We know that segregation and discrimination will be | 30:26 | |
over our heads every inch of the way! | 30:29 | |
But we'll keep our eyes set on that little light | 30:31 | |
at the end of the road that shines to freedom. | 30:33 | |
This is the dream of the American Negro. | 30:36 | |
I dream of the day I'll be able to walk up | 30:39 | |
the courthouse steps in Dougherty County, | 30:42 | |
and I'll be able to go in and sit down | 30:46 | |
and converse with Mr. Chatmon in his chambers | 30:48 | |
of the city commission. | 30:51 | |
(exclaiming) | 30:52 | |
My dream is of the day when I'll be able to go | 30:53 | |
into the Holiday Inn and sit down at the welcome table | 30:56 | |
and join my friends having dinner. | 30:59 | |
(exclaiming) | 31:00 | |
They can go upstairs and enjoy the comforts | 31:02 | |
of the Holiday Inn. | 31:05 | |
I look forward to the day when I can exert myself | 31:06 | |
as a man downtown and demand what is rightfully mine | 31:09 | |
and get it! | 31:12 | |
Without fear of any retaliation, without fear | 31:14 | |
of my life being lost, of my body being harmed. | 31:17 | |
I look forward to the day when I would not have | 31:20 | |
to go around to the back door anymore. | 31:22 | |
I would not have to be subjected to the humiliations | 31:24 | |
and embarrassments of being called a boy. | 31:28 | |
And know why I can't go into the zoo | 31:32 | |
because my face is black. | 31:34 | |
In my dream, too, I see my daughter going | 31:36 | |
to Albany High School, she was turned back one time. | 31:39 | |
And they'll never learn, God bless their souls! | 31:43 | |
In Albany, they'd rather close the door | 31:46 | |
and deprive all the students of education! | 31:48 | |
Rather than let a Negro join them | 31:52 | |
in this education process. | 31:56 | |
But our dream of the free Negro | 32:00 | |
in the United States is becoming a reality. | 32:03 | |
And it's becoming a reality because you here | 32:07 | |
in Terrell County and the Negroes over in Dougherty County, | 32:09 | |
and the Negroes in Lee County, and the Negroes | 32:12 | |
in Baker County have decided that they aren't | 32:15 | |
gonna take it any longer! | 32:17 | |
They decided they will not have their backs bent | 32:20 | |
and be enslaved anymore. | 32:22 | |
They are determined to be free and nothing can turn | 32:24 | |
them around because the change has come from within. | 32:26 | |
And once the change has started from within, | 32:30 | |
there is no turning back. | 32:34 | |
The martyr has already mounted the cross. | 32:36 | |
He has felt the pierce of the spear in his side. | 32:39 | |
He cannot come down off the cross. | 32:44 | |
He will stay there. | 32:47 | |
He will suffer, bleed and die until he is free. | 32:49 | |
I would admonish the people that when they ask | 32:56 | |
in my travels what happened to the Negroes down there | 32:58 | |
in southwest Georgia. | 33:01 | |
And I tell the story of the Negro who had been working | 33:04 | |
as a sharecropper, and he went up to old master | 33:06 | |
at the end of the season and he said, | 33:10 | |
"Old Master, how did we do this year?" | 33:12 | |
Master said, "Well, Johnny, you did very good this year. | 33:14 | |
"You had the best crop of peanuts and corn and cotton | 33:17 | |
"I've ever seen. | 33:22 | |
"But you know, Johnny? | 33:22 | |
"We just did break even, so there's no money | 33:24 | |
"for you this year. | 33:27 | |
"You gonna try me again next year?" | 33:29 | |
He said, "Well, yes sir, I guess I'll try | 33:30 | |
"you again next year." | 33:33 | |
And he worked even harder than he'd ever worked before | 33:35 | |
and at the end of the season, he went up and said, | 33:37 | |
"Old Master, how did we do this year?" | 33:38 | |
He said, "Well, John, you outdid yourself. | 33:41 | |
"This is the best year that you've ever had. | 33:44 | |
"I'm just proud of ya. | 33:47 | |
"You had more cotton and peanuts and corn. | 33:50 | |
"We had a tremendous year this year. | 33:52 | |
"But you know, John, we just did break even." | 33:54 | |
(laughing) | 33:58 | |
"You gonna try me again next year, John?" | 34:00 | |
And he said, "No, I'm gonna try you now!" | 34:01 | |
(laughing) | 34:04 | |
I tell him that! | 34:06 | |
We have contributed our all to the building | 34:07 | |
of this nation! | 34:12 | |
We have made cotton king! | 34:14 | |
We just decided we weren't gonna take it anymore, | 34:16 | |
we decided we'd try now. | 34:19 | |
(clapping) | 34:22 | |
We decided that we are gonna stop going to the back door. | 34:27 | |
Gonna stop buying and scraping and as Wyatt Walker says, | 34:31 | |
"Scratching where we don't itch and | 34:35 | |
grinning when we don't tickle." | 34:37 | |
(laughing) | 34:39 | |
- | Amen. | 34:40 |
- | This is a Negro who's not afraid any longer. | 34:41 |
And as we sing that song, "We Are Not Afraid," | 34:42 | |
we sing it from the bottom of our hearts | 34:45 | |
because we really mean it. | 34:47 | |
(exclaiming) | 34:48 | |
It's a Negro who walks and holds his head up high, | 34:49 | |
and as long as he holds his head up high, | 34:52 | |
he cannot be enslaved because you have to bend down | 34:55 | |
and bow down to become a slave. | 34:58 | |
- | That's right. | 34:59 |
- | This is a Negro who has a new sense of dignity | 35:01 |
and self respect. | 35:03 | |
He's a Negro who conducts himself in a manner | 35:05 | |
that will make you respect him! | 35:08 | |
Zeke Matthews wouldn't dare darken this door. | 35:10 | |
This would not have happened a year ago. | 35:16 | |
We would not even be meeting in this tent a year ago. | 35:19 | |
They can kick us out but they can't kick us down. | 35:23 | |
They can burn the churches down, but where this one stood, | 35:26 | |
a greater church will stand, because our cause is | 35:30 | |
a righteous cause! | 35:33 | |
And you can slow it down, but you can't stop it. | 35:35 | |
You can cause it to take a more devious route | 35:40 | |
and get it off that straight path, | 35:43 | |
but you can't stop it. | 35:45 | |
It's going. | 35:46 | |
Because the Negroes have a dream. | 35:47 | |
- | Amen. | 35:49 |
- | A dream of being an American citizen. | 35:51 |
A first-class citizen, with all of the rights | 35:54 | |
and privileges of any other American citizen. | 35:58 | |
And we are determined to see that day come | 36:00 | |
in this present generation. | 36:05 | |
- | Amen. | 36:07 |
- | It does my heart good to see | 36:09 |
the older people participating. | 36:11 | |
Those who probably have most of their years behind them. | 36:14 | |
And you would think that after being subjected | 36:19 | |
to a virtual slavery for these past 100 years, | 36:22 | |
they'd be ready to give up. | 36:25 | |
But you can't help but have your heart warmed | 36:28 | |
when you see that even they are determined to see freedom | 36:30 | |
in their generation. | 36:34 | |
When we get done over there in Dougherty County | 36:37 | |
with our white folk, we gonna come over here | 36:38 | |
and help you straighten out yours. | 36:41 | |
(laughing and clapping) | 36:42 | |
We feel as though as we make southwest Georgia better, | 36:47 | |
the entire South will be better. | 36:52 | |
The soul of the nation rests in the hands of the Negro. | 36:55 | |
The salvation of the free world rests in the hands | 37:01 | |
of the Negroes. | 37:05 | |
As we make southwest Georgia better, | 37:08 | |
we will make the world better. | 37:10 | |
We will have to teach our brothers in the deep South | 37:13 | |
that it is only through love can we win the hearts | 37:16 | |
and minds of people throughout this world. | 37:19 | |
If we are to maintain our image as a world leader | 37:22 | |
in a democratic society, it will not be because we are | 37:25 | |
a big nation. | 37:28 | |
Bigness is imposing. | 37:30 | |
It will be because we are a great nation. | 37:32 | |
And great nations recognize the privileges | 37:35 | |
of its minorities. | 37:39 | |
Greatness is enduring. | 37:41 | |
Thank you very much. | 37:43 | |
(clapping) | 37:44 | |
(chatting) | 37:52 | |
- | On Saturday night, while many of us that are here | 37:55 |
were away to the (inaudible) the Ku Klux Klan held a meeting | 37:59 | |
on private property and (inaudible) of Dougherty County. | 38:03 | |
And across from the Klan's meeting, a group of people | 38:06 | |
from Albany, formed a target line, to keep the Klans | 38:14 | |
from crossing over to burn a cross | 38:18 | |
in front of Dr. Anderson's house. | 38:21 | |
The Klan had asked to parade, and Pritchard refused | 38:23 | |
to give them permission to parade. | 38:27 | |
So they were calling him all kind of names, | 38:30 | |
saying that he was a nigger lover. | 38:32 | |
But he stood beside Negroes and told them | 38:35 | |
that not to fire at them (mumbling). | 38:37 | |
(cheering and clapping) | 38:41 | |
- | Freedom rights. | 38:53 |
(mumbling) | 38:54 | |
To keep him enrolled, he told me, he says, | 38:56 | |
he says, "Well, if I've gotta take it," | 38:58 | |
he says, "so we can be looking out." | 39:00 | |
He said, "Chapel and South was told to me." | 39:06 | |
He said, "Don't tell you all about it." | 39:11 | |
He said, "But they're gonna arrest you and Sherrod | 39:13 | |
"for tonight when they have the meeting out there." | 39:16 | |
That's what he told me (mumbling). | 39:23 | |
I said, "Well, okay." | 39:25 | |
I said, "I thank you for telling me." | 39:26 | |
(mumbling) | 39:28 | |
They can come with all the sheriffs in the world they want, | 39:31 | |
but to have me locked to that chair (inaudible) | 39:34 | |
(inaudible) why I can't go. | 39:38 | |
I'm wanted, just like I told them people | 39:40 | |
at the All-American thing. | 39:42 | |
gonna give me that paper, with the (inaudible)? | 39:44 | |
She brought it up. | 39:48 | |
And said, "Arthur Clems, I didn't think you would, | 39:51 | |
"but we've been mighty nice to you and sympathized." | 39:54 | |
So well, I said, "I appreciate it, too." | 39:57 | |
He said, "I didn't think you'd join hands | 40:00 | |
"with something like that." | 40:02 | |
I said, "Well," I said, "It's just like this. | 40:03 | |
"That church out there is just like my house." | 40:05 | |
I says, "Anybody go to my house, I'm going to see | 40:07 | |
"what they do." | 40:11 | |
I say, "And they came over to have a meeting," | 40:12 | |
"That's the church house, where they hold the meeting." | 40:14 | |
I say, "We go out there, we sing, we pray, | 40:17 | |
"and have our meeting." | 40:20 | |
I say, "You don't mind us trying to learn how to register | 40:23 | |
"if we don't know how." | 40:27 | |
No, ain't nothing wrong with that. | 40:29 | |
That's not against the state laws. | 40:31 | |
But you didn't look like you all had to get them with that. | 40:33 | |
What I mean, no, I know. | 40:38 | |
They here all the time, but they didn't tell us. | 40:40 | |
They didn't tell us. | 40:45 | |
(clapping) | 40:49 | |
- | Have you ever told about your (mumbling)? | 40:58 |
- | Oh, did I tell you people about seeing Mr. Lightfoot? | 41:03 |
(laughing) | 41:06 | |
Well, Mr. Lightfoot is the principal | 41:08 | |
of Lee County Training School. | 41:10 | |
A fine man, fine man. | 41:13 | |
A gentleman. | 41:17 | |
A real gentleman. | 41:18 | |
(laughing) | 41:20 | |
- | A gentleman (mumbling). | 41:22 |
- | Doctor. | 41:23 |
(laughing) | 41:24 | |
Dr. Tom. | 41:26 | |
I walked in with it. | 41:27 | |
Ed Hebron, during the tournament. | 41:30 | |
Larry was going back up to Ohio to make some arrangements | 41:35 | |
at his school. | 41:40 | |
Eddie was out in Lee County with me, | 41:41 | |
and we went over to see Mr. Lightfoot to ask him | 41:43 | |
if he had a list of the names of the kids | 41:46 | |
in Lee County School who were old enough to vote, | 41:49 | |
or if we could walk around and talk to some | 41:53 | |
of the kids that are in school and try to get | 41:57 | |
'em to go down and register, since this was a place | 41:59 | |
where most of 'em came together. | 42:02 | |
So, well, we didn't expect to get a good answer from him. | 42:03 | |
A positive answer. | 42:07 | |
But we thought we'd go and see, anyway. | 42:08 | |
And it took him about 20 minutes to say no. | 42:11 | |
And he said it in five or 10 different ways. | 42:16 | |
And he stopped every few minutes, every time | 42:20 | |
somebody's footsteps were heard in the hall, | 42:21 | |
he'd stop and peep around the corner and say, | 42:24 | |
"Wait a minute, I wanna see if that's Mr. Charlie." | 42:26 | |
"Never can tell when he's gonna come through here." | 42:31 | |
And so, soon as Larry got back from Ohio, | 42:34 | |
I told him about this and said that next time we go, | 42:40 | |
Mr. Charlie will go with us (laughing) | 42:43 | |
and see how he reacts then. | 42:45 | |
- | Well, things are coming along. | 42:58 |
There's a rumor out that tomorrow night at the meeting | 43:01 | |
in Sumter County that a Mr. Trim Porter, | 43:06 | |
who's the eldest deacon at the Pleasant Grove Baptist Church | 43:10 | |
and who was also responsible for our being there, | 43:14 | |
this man is to be arrested. | 43:18 | |
If he comes to our meeting. | 43:21 | |
- | Yeah, I know it. | 43:23 |
- | Along with me. | 43:25 |
(laughing) | 43:27 | |
- | Yeah. | 43:28 |
- | Tomorrow night, this is? | 43:29 |
- | Yeah. | 43:31 |
- | I'd said as well. | 43:37 |
I received a little telephone call from my mother | 43:38 | |
to say that my grandmother was ill. | 43:43 | |
I would've gone Tuesday. | 43:46 | |
My grandmother's near death. | 43:49 | |
If they just hadn't gotten out that rumor | 43:54 | |
that if I came to that church that I'd be arrested, | 43:58 | |
I would've gone Tuesday. | 44:01 | |
But since that's what, since they said that, | 44:04 | |
I feel compelled to go to that meeting. | 44:06 | |
'Cause I don't believe they are doing anything like that. | 44:11 | |
They are too nice of marching men over there to do that. | 44:14 | |
(laughing) | 44:19 | |
See there's Chapel and this GBI friend. | 44:22 | |
What's his name? | 44:26 | |
(mumbling) | 44:28 | |
Mr. South. | 44:29 | |
Mr South. | 44:31 | |
Say that he stops off everywhere we are. | 44:33 | |
He was over here in Terrell investigating us. | 44:35 | |
(speakers drowning each other out) investigate for you. | 44:38 | |
He's just gotta go everywhere. | 44:40 | |
(mumbling) | 44:41 | |
- | Trouble. | 44:42 |
- | Trouble. | |
(laughing) | 44:53 | |
That's a good one. | 44:55 | |
(mumbling) | 44:56 | |
They had this story. | 44:58 | |
This is the story. | 44:59 | |
Two or three stories. | 45:02 | |
The GBI story is that the kids playing around | 45:05 | |
with the matches or the paper, or the coals | 45:09 | |
in the stove and burned the house down. | 45:12 | |
They said the kids did it. | 45:16 | |
With no explanation given to the whites. | 45:18 | |
Second story is a story | 45:21 | |
of Mr. Porter, Mr. Trim Porter, who was a deacon | 45:28 | |
out of Pleasant Grove who says that after he had gone | 45:32 | |
to the store, about a quarter to 11, | 45:37 | |
upon coming back, he was in driving his truck. | 45:40 | |
He swung back to buy some fish. | 45:45 | |
Some fish somewhere, somewhere. | 45:49 | |
What did he say? | 45:51 | |
(mumbling) | 45:52 | |
Mullet fish. | 45:53 | |
What? | 45:54 | |
- | Mullet fish. | 45:55 |
- | Yeah, mullet, it's a mullet. | 45:56 |
Why you laugh? | 45:57 | |
That's a good kinda fish. | 45:58 | |
(laughing) | 46:00 | |
Now, another man stopped him and told him | 46:01 | |
that his house was on fire. | 46:06 | |
So they sped toward his house and found | 46:08 | |
that the fire had been started. | 46:12 | |
That the house was burning and collapsed within this, | 46:16 | |
he saw his house was falling down to pieces. | 46:20 | |
And he also found his kids in the ditch. | 46:24 | |
They were scared, they were cold, and so he couldn't get | 46:30 | |
anything out of them then. | 46:34 | |
Took them to a friend's home. | 46:35 | |
Where after they had thawed out. | 46:38 | |
Get 'em warm and everything. | 46:43 | |
He questioned them. | 46:45 | |
They said that a white man came to the house | 46:47 | |
and told them to go down to the road. | 46:51 | |
And they went down to the road. | 46:59 | |
They said this white man came in a blue car. | 47:01 | |
And this is what Mr. Porter said that his kids said | 47:04 | |
to him, and his wife also says that, | 47:07 | |
his wife also said that the kids said this. | 47:13 | |
The kids were questioned and everything | 47:18 | |
by both the GBI and FBI, and some of them came | 47:21 | |
up with the rumor that the kids burned the house down. | 47:27 | |
But we also questioned these kids. | 47:34 | |
About five years old, little girl, thinking about, | 47:36 | |
she had probably some of that while run around | 47:44 | |
and hit you and play with you, jump on you | 47:48 | |
and all that. | 47:51 |
- | Uh and the other little girls | 0:02 |
were kinda in-going and they | 0:04 | |
you know, don't make friends too easy. | 0:06 | |
Well that's the kinda girl they was. | 0:08 | |
And uh, one question that we found that we | 0:11 | |
couldn't get her to say anything. | 0:13 | |
She wouldn't say anything. | 0:16 | |
She's say, uh, and I'd say, uh | 0:18 | |
did you burn the house down? | 0:24 | |
She'd say yeah. | 0:26 | |
Or did you, uh, did your daddy burn the house down? | 0:28 | |
And they say yeah. | 0:31 | |
Did you mother burn the house down? | 0:33 | |
And she might say yeah. | 0:34 | |
Or she might say no to all those questions. | 0:35 | |
That kind of a kid. | 0:38 | |
Or at least asking those questions. | 0:41 | |
Now on the other hand, I have an opinion. | 0:43 | |
Some others of us have opinions. | 0:47 | |
You probably have your own personal opinion too. | 0:50 | |
My opinion is, I find it difficult to understand | 0:53 | |
why a little girl, the nature of that little girl, | 0:59 | |
finds a need to create a white man that wasn't there | 1:05 | |
or a blue car that wasn't there. | 1:12 | |
And there's another possibility too. | 1:18 | |
There's a possibility somebody's got another view of this | 1:20 | |
is that the white man who came could've come to | 1:24 | |
get the kids out of the house. | 1:28 | |
Maybe he told the kids to get out of the house | 1:31 | |
when the house was burning. | 1:33 | |
But why would they leave? | 1:37 | |
Why is it Mr. Porter knows nothin' about these whites? | 1:38 | |
What happened to them? | 1:41 | |
Did they get burnt up in the fire along with the car? | 1:42 | |
Why is it that we have no record | 1:47 | |
of this white man that was seen? | 1:49 | |
Now these are the questions in my mind | 1:52 | |
which leads me to believe | 1:55 | |
that those kids didn't set fire to the house. | 1:59 | |
You know, this man, the same man, was uh, | 2:03 | |
had his house fired upon a couple weeks ago | 2:07 | |
had his mailbox shot through, torn down, | 2:10 | |
and uh, he also, as he was driving along the road one day, | 2:15 | |
had two white men in a car drive up, you know, | 2:23 | |
side by side him, and point their gun from their car | 2:27 | |
to his and then they drove on. | 2:32 | |
They didn't shoot anything. | 2:34 | |
They just pointed it at him like that. | 2:36 | |
- | Did he know them? | 2:38 |
- | What? | |
- | Did he know who? | 2:39 |
- | No, he didn't know them but | |
he could describe the car somewhat. | 2:41 | |
- | Now all this happened before the house burned. | 2:46 |
All that happened before so you can put two | 2:50 | |
you can put one and one together if you want to. | 2:55 | |
And you can put them together any kind of way that you want | 3:00 | |
to put them together. | 3:03 | |
That's the deal, situation on that | 3:05 | |
on that house. | 3:12 | |
(recording ends) | 3:14 | |
- | You may remember that we were all | 3:19 |
pretty exercised awhile back when seven people | 3:22 | |
who had been picketing very peacefully | 3:26 | |
in the middle of Albany in connection with asking people | 3:28 | |
not to buy downtown or midtown before Christmas | 3:31 | |
were arrested and thrown in jail. | 3:39 | |
After they were bonded out, they went to Washington | 3:41 | |
and picketed the Department of Justice. | 3:46 | |
The point is, that it's provided in the Constitution | 3:50 | |
that the people have a right to peaceable protest | 3:55 | |
and petition for the redress of grievances | 3:58 | |
and all that sort of thing, | 4:00 | |
and picketing is part of it if you don't disturb | 4:01 | |
the sidewalk or disturb the peace or anything like that. | 4:03 | |
So that it is a breach of their constitutional rights | 4:07 | |
to arrest people who are picketing in small numbers | 4:12 | |
on charges like disorderly conduct, breach of the peace, | 4:19 | |
failure to obey an officer, all the charges that are | 4:22 | |
used now and again by police all over the country | 4:25 | |
but constantly by police in Albany to get rid of pickets. | 4:29 | |
The city of Washington is very used to pickets. | 4:33 | |
The city of Washington is very public relations conscious. | 4:36 | |
I don't know, it must be 30 or 40 years since | 4:40 | |
a peaceful picket has been arrested in Washington. | 4:43 | |
So, they were picketing the Justice Department | 4:47 | |
with signs which read, among other things, | 4:49 | |
"We can picket here, why not in Albany, Georgia?" | 4:53 | |
which is a very good question. | 4:56 | |
Inside the Justice Department, at the same time | 4:59 | |
or within a day or two, attorney C.B. King | 5:02 | |
and Mr. Marion Page of the Albany Movement | 5:07 | |
were interviewing Burke Marshall who was | 5:10 | |
the Assistant Attorney General, | 5:13 | |
that is the assistant to Robert Kennedy directly in charge | 5:16 | |
of civil rights matters. | 5:19 | |
Protesting not only this particular incident | 5:21 | |
but the pattern it shows of failure of | 5:24 | |
the Federal Government to protect the rights of citizens | 5:27 | |
of Albany when they are protesting and demonstrating. | 5:30 | |
The Federal Government is perfectly OK when it's a matter | 5:34 | |
of registering to vote in Albany. | 5:36 | |
But this is another matter. | 5:38 | |
This was not a totally satisfactory interview. | 5:44 | |
But at least our feeling was registered. | 5:48 | |
As you know there are several cases in the federal courts | 5:52 | |
right now going on up from court to court | 5:56 | |
to test | 6:01 | |
the legality of what has been going on in Albany | 6:03 | |
in the way of segregation and in the way of using | 6:06 | |
other statutes than the segregation statutes | 6:09 | |
to protect segregation. | 6:12 | |
The Justice Department says once the courts have | 6:14 | |
finally ruled as perfectly clear in the line of decisions | 6:17 | |
the federal courts have been making over the last 10 years | 6:21 | |
they're going to rule our way, | 6:23 | |
once the courts have finally ruled we will step | 6:25 | |
into this situation if they go on doing things | 6:29 | |
like arresting your seven pickets last week. | 6:31 | |
Some of our people feel that there are certain laws | 6:36 | |
which even without this last court decision coming along | 6:39 | |
could be used to bring the Justice Department | 6:43 | |
into the situation right now but the Justice Department | 6:46 | |
doesn't see it that way and that's where it is. | 6:48 | |
At least the protest has been registered. | 6:51 | |
(recording ends) | 6:54 | |
♪ This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:08 | |
♪ Oh, this little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:13 | |
♪ This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:20 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 7:26 | |
♪ Everywhere I go I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:33 | |
♪ Everywhere I go I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:40 | |
♪ Everywhere I go I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:46 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 7:52 | |
♪ I've got the light of freedom, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 7:59 | |
♪ I've got the light of freedom, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:05 | |
♪ I've got the light of freedom, I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:11 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 8:16 | |
♪ All over Terrell County I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:23 | |
♪ All over Terrell County I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:29 | |
♪ All over Terrell County I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:35 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 8:40 | |
♪ Over in Terrell (inaudible) I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:46 | |
♪ Over in Terrell (inaudible) I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:52 | |
♪ Over in Terrell (inaudible) I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 8:58 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 9:03 | |
♪ Down at Terrell High School I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 9:09 | |
♪ Down at Terrell High School I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 9:14 | |
♪ Down at Terrell High School I'm gonna let it shine ♪ | 9:20 | |
♪ Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine ♪ | 9:25 | |
(recording ends) | 9:32 | |
- | He's always angry when a Negro come down to register. | 9:41 |
And his attitude was the same way towards me. | 9:47 | |
You know, the times that I went down. | 9:51 | |
You see that something was making him very uncomfortable, | 9:54 | |
just the idea of you coming down there you know, | 9:58 | |
he thought he wasn't supposed to | 10:01 | |
register nobody-- | 10:02 | |
- | That's the way it seemed today. | 10:04 |
- | Yeah, and he'd look at you like you were guilty | 10:05 |
just wondering what it was, what are you doing in here | 10:08 | |
and when you tell him you come to register, | 10:12 | |
most times he'll ask you twice, | 10:14 | |
"What you say? What you want, boy?" | 10:17 | |
And I say I came down to register. | 10:20 | |
"You came down to what?" | 10:22 | |
Just the way he talk, you know? | 10:23 | |
And he act like he's shocked when you tell you came | 10:26 | |
down to register. | 10:29 | |
And he said, "For what?" | 10:31 | |
You know, I went down, I said, he said, | 10:32 | |
"What you want boy?" | 10:34 | |
I came down to register. | 10:35 | |
"For what, the army?" | 10:37 | |
You know, that's the first thing he said, the army. | 10:38 | |
And I said no, I registered for the army already. | 10:40 | |
I came down to register to vote today. | 10:42 | |
(recording ends) | 10:45 | |
- | In the face of all of this though, | 11:01 |
something keeps telling me that our only hope | 11:07 | |
is to get these people down to the polls | 11:12 | |
one by one, or two by two. | 11:16 | |
If it's one a week or if it's two. | 11:22 | |
Our hope rests upon | 11:34 | |
Geting these people down to register. | 11:42 | |
Believe it or not. | 11:47 | |
I know that you can say that's it's hard, | 11:51 | |
it's almost impossible. | 11:55 | |
But in the face of all of that, it must be done. | 11:59 | |
We've got to keep going back and back and back. | 12:04 | |
Got to just try this, that, and the other thing. | 12:07 | |
This and that, until we get them down there. | 12:10 | |
We've got to get them down there. | 12:15 | |
Little by little I think we'll wear them down. | 12:17 | |
And I think we'll get a number registered. | 12:23 | |
But let us put our | 12:29 | |
our efforts | 12:35 | |
and every ounce of energy | 12:37 | |
we got let us put it into getting the people registered. | 12:39 | |
Those of you who do have a | 12:46 | |
(tape scratching drowns out words) | 12:48 | |
Stick. | 12:51 | |
You can take it from me. | 12:57 | |
You cannot win by running. | 12:59 | |
You will not save your | 13:04 | |
you will not save your skin by running. | 13:07 | |
Generations to come will spit on your grave. | 13:14 | |
Your children will spit on your grave. | 13:18 | |
This is the trying hour. This is the trying day. | 13:25 | |
The future | 13:33 | |
is on trial in these 1961, 62, 63. | 13:38 | |
The future. | 13:45 | |
(applause) | 13:53 | |
(recording ends) | 13:58 | |
- | I think everybody must be about to (inaudible) | 14:09 |
Uh, we gonna say in this-- | 14:13 | |
it's kinda cold in here | 14:16 | |
I think people want to get out | 14:18 | |
This thing is just missing something. | 14:20 | |
We got somebody singing? | 14:22 | |
(crowd murmurs) | 14:24 | |
(laughs) | 14:28 | |
- | Reverend where you going? | 14:32 |
- | Okay, somebody sing a song. | 14:39 |
♪ We shall overcome ♪ | 14:42 | |
♪ We shall overcome ♪ | 14:50 | |
♪ We shall overcome ♪ | 14:57 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 15:02 | |
♪ Oh deep in my heart I know that ♪ | 15:08 | |
♪ I do believe ♪ | 15:17 | |
♪ Oh, we shall overcome ♪ | 15:22 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 15:28 | |
- | We are not afraid. | 15:30 |
♪ We are not afraid ♪ | 15:32 | |
♪ We are not afraid ♪ | 15:38 | |
♪ We are not afraid ♪ | 15:44 | |
♪ Today ♪ | 15:48 | |
♪ Oh deep in my heart I know that ♪ | 15:53 | |
♪ I do believe ♪ | 16:02 | |
♪ Oh we shall overcome ♪ | 16:06 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 16:11 | |
- | We'll walk hand in hand. | 16:14 |
♪ We'll walk hand in hand ♪ | 16:16 | |
♪ We'll walk hand in hand ♪ | 16:22 | |
♪ We'll walk hand in hand ♪ | 16:28 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 16:32 | |
♪ Oh, deep in my heart I know that ♪ | 16:37 | |
♪ I do believe ♪ | 16:44 | |
♪ Oh, we shall overcome ♪ | 16:49 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 16:54 | |
- | Black and white together. | 16:57 |
♪ Black and white together ♪ | 16:59 | |
♪ Black and white together ♪ | 17:04 | |
♪ Black and white together ♪ | 17:10 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 17:16 | |
♪ Oh deep in my heart I know that ♪ | 17:20 | |
♪ I do believe ♪ | 17:27 | |
♪ Oh, we shall overcome ♪ | 17:31 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 17:37 | |
- | God is on our side. | 17:39 |
♪ God is on our side ♪ | 17:41 | |
♪ God is on our side ♪ | 17:46 | |
♪ God is on our side ♪ | 17:52 | |
♪ Today ♪ | 17:56 | |
♪ Oh, deep in my heart I know that ♪ | 18:01 | |
♪ I do believe ♪ | 18:09 | |
♪ Oh, we shall overcome ♪ | 18:13 | |
♪ Someday ♪ | 18:18 | |
- | Let's bow our heads as the reverend closes. | 18:21 |
(humming continues in background) | 18:24 | |
- | Oh gracious God we pray that thou will keep us safe. | 18:24 |
Help us to accomplish our undertakings. | 18:30 | |
We pray that Thou would bless and inspire | 18:34 | |
those who are afraid. | 18:36 | |
Encourage that they may move forward in Thy name. | 18:42 | |
This we ask in the same of Thy son Christ Jesus, Amen. | 18:48 | |
♪ Oh, we shall overcome someday ♪ | 18:55 |
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