Ma Guangxue (b.1937) is a resident of Diaoyutai Village, Yindian Town, Suizhou City, Hubei Province. In 1959 when local people were most starving, Ma worked in a silkworm farm, where he was able to eat silkworm pupas to get nutrition. Like Chen Xinmin, Ma talks about how several fellow villagers starved to death, including the controversy over whether Ma Zhengyi died of starvation or of overeating. Before the Four Cleanups, Ma was in charge of recording work points of the production team members. During the Four Cleanups, leaders who misbehaved were criticized as those who hadn't cleaned up the reactionary elements. The criticism was much harsher during the Cultural revolution. Ma also briefly talks about the administration system of the production team.