Interview with Ma Guangxue

Ma Guangxue (b.1937) is a resident of Diaoyutai Village, Yindian Town, Suizhou City, Hubei Province. In 1959 when local people were most starving, Ma worked in a silkworm farm, where he was able to eat silkworm pupas to get nutrition. Like Chen Xinmin, Ma talks about how several fellow villagers starved to death, including the controversy over whether Ma Zhengyi died of starvation or of overeating. Before the Four Cleanups, Ma was in charge of recording work points of the production team members. During the Four Cleanups, leaders who misbehaved were criticized as those who hadn't cleaned up the reactionary elements. The criticism was much harsher during the Cultural revolution. Ma also briefly talks about the administration system of the production team.

马光学（1937年生）是湖北省随州市殷店镇钓鱼台村村民。马老人的口述涉及大饥荒、四清运动和文革三个主题。1959年最饥饿的时候, 马老人在外地的蚕场工作, 通过吃蚕蛾儿补充营养。与陈新民老人一样, 马老人也讲述了村里几位村民饿死的情况, 包括关于马正义是饿死还是涨死的争论。四清运动之前, 马老人曾经担任生产队的记分员。关于四清运动, 他解释做事不正当、不清楚的干部就是受到批判的'四不清'，文革期间对干部的批斗更加严厉。另外, 马老人还简要介绍了生产队的管理体系构成

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