William H. Willimon - "Thinking about Easter" (April 3, 1994)
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| - | The gospel for this Easter is from the Gospel of John. | 0:08 |
| Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, | 0:14 | |
| Mary Magdalene came to the tomb | 0:18 | |
| and saw that stone had been removed from the tomb, | 0:21 | |
| so she ran to Simon, Peter and the other disciple | 0:25 | |
| and said to them, "they have taken the Lord out of the tomb | 0:29 | |
| "and we do not know where to find him." | 0:34 | |
| Then Peter and the other disciples set out | 0:37 | |
| and went toward the tomb. | 0:39 | |
| The two were running together but the other disciple | 0:42 | |
| outran Peter and reached the tomb first. | 0:44 | |
| He bent down to look in and he saw the linen wrappings | 0:47 | |
| lying there, but he did not go in. | 0:52 | |
| Then Simon Peter came following him and went to the tomb. | 0:56 | |
| He saw the linen wrappings lying there | 1:00 | |
| and the cloth that had been on Jesus' head, | 1:02 | |
| not lying with the linen wrappings, | 1:04 | |
| but in a place by itself. | 1:07 | |
| Then the other disciple who reached the tomb first | 1:09 | |
| also went in and he saw and he believed. | 1:11 | |
| For as yet they did not understand the scripture, | 1:17 | |
| that he must rise from the dead. | 1:20 | |
| Then the disciples returned to their homes. | 1:23 | |
| But Mary stood outside weeping and as she wept she bent over | 1:28 | |
| and looked into the tomb and she saw two angels in white | 1:33 | |
| sitting there at the body of Jesus where the body of Jesus | 1:37 | |
| had been lying, one at the head and the other at the feet. | 1:40 | |
| They said to her, "woman, why are you weeping?" | 1:44 | |
| And she said to them, "they have taken away my Lord | 1:48 | |
| and I do not know where to find him." | 1:52 | |
| When she said this, she turned around | 1:56 | |
| and saw Jesus standing there, | 1:58 | |
| but she did not know that it was Jesus. | 1:59 | |
| Jesus said to her, "woman, why are you weeping? | 2:02 | |
| "Whom are you looking for?" | 2:06 | |
| Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, | 2:08 | |
| "Sir, if you have carried him away, | 2:11 | |
| "tell me where you have laid him and I will take him away." | 2:14 | |
| Jesus said to her, "Mary." | 2:19 | |
| She turned, she said to him in Hebrew, "rabboni", | 2:25 | |
| which means teacher. | 2:29 | |
| Jesus said to her, "do not hold me because I have not yet | 2:32 | |
| ascended to the Father, but go to my brothers | 2:37 | |
| and tell them I am ascending to my Father and your Father, | 2:40 | |
| to my God and your God." | 2:44 | |
| Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, | 2:47 | |
| "I have seen the Lord." | 2:51 | |
| So much depends upon a red wheelbarrow. | 2:59 | |
| Thus begins a poem by William Carlos Williams, | 3:04 | |
| so much depends upon a red wheelbarrow. | 3:08 | |
| And don't you think that sort of sums it all up? | 3:12 | |
| We're modern folk who began and end | 3:16 | |
| with hardcore stuff. | 3:21 | |
| Stuff which can be seen and touched and tasted and tested. | 3:24 | |
| No metaphysical flights of fancy for us. | 3:29 | |
| Seeing is believing. | 3:34 | |
| The red wheelbarrow. | 3:37 | |
| Art like that of Williams' will take a red wheelbarrow | 3:40 | |
| or a Campbell's soup can | 3:44 | |
| and by focusing steadily upon that object, | 3:46 | |
| renders it noteworthy, forces us to face it for what it is, | 3:50 | |
| for what we can see, | 3:55 | |
| since what we can see is all that there is. | 3:56 | |
| Everything depends upon a red wheelbarrow. | 4:03 | |
| And though here at the university we may pick apart | 4:08 | |
| that wheelbarrow into its various chemical components, | 4:12 | |
| we may do intensive analysis of its metallic parts, | 4:15 | |
| we can eventually tell you which organisms | 4:18 | |
| are rotting its wood away. | 4:20 | |
| We always end as we begin, | 4:23 | |
| with a red wheelbarrow. | 4:27 | |
| Although after the school of engineering is finished poking | 4:30 | |
| away with your wheelbarrow, it's now a broken pile of junk. | 4:34 | |
| A red wheelbarrow in the hands of a physicist, | 4:39 | |
| rather than a poet, is a dead wheelbarrow. | 4:42 | |
| Sophomores, beware. | 4:46 | |
| Don't ever let the faculty fool with your wheelbarrow. | 4:47 | |
| Now, for Peter, this was Easter. | 4:52 | |
| Running out to the cemetery with Mary Magdalene, | 4:57 | |
| she got there first. To her horror, the tomb was empty. | 5:00 | |
| Peter came to the cemetery, it was still dark, | 5:05 | |
| peered into the tomb and what did Peter see? | 5:08 | |
| A napkin, folded neatly by itself. | 5:14 | |
| The linen shroud also folded and that was it. | 5:19 | |
| The other disciple arrived, he looked, he saw, he believed. | 5:24 | |
| He believed what? | 5:31 | |
| Not that Jesus had been raised from the dead. | 5:34 | |
| Nobody thought that. | 5:38 | |
| The text explains they knew nothing about the resurrection. | 5:40 | |
| So, having seen, | 5:46 | |
| having processed what they saw, they believed. | 5:49 | |
| Believed that Jesus was dead. | 5:53 | |
| And now they believed that Jesus' body had been stolen | 5:58 | |
| from the tomb. | 6:02 | |
| And now these two men went home and had breakfast. | 6:04 | |
| And that, as they say, was that. | 6:09 | |
| And on the way back home, they said to themselves, | 6:12 | |
| well, it was a good campaign while it lasted. | 6:14 | |
| We didn't get him elected Messiah. | 6:16 | |
| Somebody else said, "You know, I will never forget the time | 6:20 | |
| "where we were at the wedding, where was the wedding? | 6:23 | |
| "Cana, Galilee, turned the water into wine. | 6:24 | |
| "You know we oughta write this stuff down | 6:27 | |
| "'cause we'll probably forget it as time goes on. | 6:29 | |
| "John's good with words, maybe he'll write a gospel." | 6:31 | |
| They came and they saw and they believed. | 6:37 | |
| And they went home. | 6:41 | |
| And this is how death gets believed. | 6:44 | |
| I know in my experience, some of the most vivid | 6:48 | |
| and painful parts of the grieving process | 6:51 | |
| are when you go back home. | 6:55 | |
| You know what I'm talking about? | 6:59 | |
| I bet some of you do. | 7:00 | |
| The funeral is over. | 7:02 | |
| Friends and family depart, leaving casseroles, | 7:04 | |
| and then everything is quiet. | 7:09 | |
| And you're at home, and you get home and you look over | 7:11 | |
| at that dining room table and you see her chair. | 7:16 | |
| You'll only need one chair now at the table. | 7:21 | |
| Oh no, there's her knitting bag. | 7:26 | |
| Put that away! | 7:27 | |
| The folded linen, the napkin folded there, it's painful. | 7:31 | |
| These tangible, physical, red wheelbarrow reminders | 7:37 | |
| that make us believe death. | 7:42 | |
| Mary stood outside the tomb weeping. | 7:47 | |
| She had come out there with Peter and the other disciple, | 7:49 | |
| but curiously she remained there frozen in grief, | 7:53 | |
| weeping at this final outrage. | 7:57 | |
| Was it not enough that Jesus had been killed? | 8:01 | |
| Now they had to steal the body. | 8:03 | |
| Where was the body of Jesus? | 8:05 | |
| She can't find the body of Jesus. | 8:07 | |
| Where should she begin her search? | 8:09 | |
| And I bet some of you can identify with Mary if you've | 8:14 | |
| been through grief anytime lately. | 8:17 | |
| Somebody you love dies and you need to see the body | 8:21 | |
| because that's part of the way we love people. | 8:28 | |
| We don't love some disembodied humanity. | 8:30 | |
| No, we love that body, those eyes, that hand, that touch. | 8:33 | |
| Edgar Jackson in studying people's grief says that | 8:38 | |
| the most significant part in the grieving process | 8:43 | |
| is viewing the body. | 8:46 | |
| That's when the bereaved look over into the coffin | 8:50 | |
| and they see: He is dead, I live, he is dead, | 8:52 | |
| I believe, I believe in death. | 8:57 | |
| And that's what Mary wanted, | 9:03 | |
| the sight of the stone rolled away, the folded linen cloths, | 9:06 | |
| the absence of the corpse, | 9:09 | |
| didn't move Mary to thought of resurrection, | 9:12 | |
| because she, like Peter, | 9:16 | |
| knew of only one conceptual possibility. | 9:17 | |
| That is, they have taken away my Lord, | 9:21 | |
| and I do not know where to find him. | 9:24 | |
| Mary's logic is faultless. | 9:28 | |
| After all, dead bodies don't just disappear, | 9:30 | |
| somebody has to move them. | 9:33 | |
| The world is a realm of cause-effect rationality. | 9:35 | |
| We live by laws of motion and mechanics. | 9:40 | |
| Things happen as they have always happened. | 9:44 | |
| All science, all human reasoning, all perception are based | 9:48 | |
| upon the pervasiveness of the familiar. | 9:53 | |
| Only that which has happened before is able to happen again. | 9:57 | |
| Find the body, Mary, then get on with the grief. | 10:03 | |
| Only then will you be able to go back home and believe. | 10:07 | |
| Get on with business as usual. | 10:12 | |
| How is Mary going to find Jesus? | 10:16 | |
| And how are you gonna find Jesus? | 10:24 | |
| Well we find Jesus the same way we might find anything, | 10:29 | |
| the way of the red wheelbarrow, through science or history | 10:33 | |
| or whatever manner of thought holds privileged place | 10:38 | |
| within our economy. | 10:42 | |
| Something weird confronts us. | 10:45 | |
| What does your mind do? | 10:46 | |
| Your mind immediately attempts to make sense of it. | 10:48 | |
| You look at the folded napkin, the rolled up linen cloth, | 10:52 | |
| you put the world under a microscope, | 10:56 | |
| you consult the GNP, the scholarly consensus. | 10:58 | |
| We have rules around here for what to think | 11:03 | |
| and how to think. | 11:07 | |
| No body? | 11:11 | |
| Where's the body? | 11:13 | |
| They have taken away my Lord and I do not know | 11:15 | |
| where to find him. | 11:18 | |
| Peter, the other disciple looked in the tomb, | 11:20 | |
| see the evidence of the robbery and they believe. | 11:23 | |
| They go back home, they adjust. | 11:27 | |
| Mary, a little slower on the uptake, sees the same evidence, | 11:31 | |
| but she stands there at the tomb befuddled, | 11:35 | |
| not knowing what to think. | 11:37 | |
| I do not know where to find Jesus. | 11:39 | |
| Now note what happens. | 11:45 | |
| Jesus | 11:48 | |
| calls her name, Mary, | 11:51 | |
| and the illogical, unthinkable, impossible, | 11:57 | |
| unnatural, incredible breaks in. | 12:01 | |
| The one certified as dead, | 12:04 | |
| after all, the she saw the napkin, the linen cloth. | 12:06 | |
| This one now greets her, calling her by name, Mary. | 12:09 | |
| Mary's old plausibility structure struggles | 12:16 | |
| to make sense of it. | 12:20 | |
| She takes this one who speaks perhaps to be the gardener. | 12:22 | |
| Grasping him, she pleads, "Tell me where you have hidden him | 12:27 | |
| "and I will take him away." | 12:31 | |
| She wants the body of Jesus and she might do the proper, | 12:34 | |
| conventional, respectful thing for the corpse. | 12:37 | |
| And this one says to Mary, "Do not hold me." | 12:42 | |
| He doesn't say "Noli me tangere, don't touch me" he says, | 12:47 | |
| "Do not hold me." | 12:51 | |
| Mary's perfectly logical, understandably natural need | 12:55 | |
| to pursue the body of her beloved Jesus has not yet room | 12:58 | |
| for the miracle. | 13:03 | |
| The voice of Jesus has called to her. | 13:08 | |
| Called across the great abyss of death. | 13:12 | |
| Thrown a line to her across that great cavern that expands | 13:16 | |
| between her little logic of red wheelbarrows | 13:22 | |
| and linen shrouds and all of that. | 13:25 | |
| And the power of God to work wonder. | 13:29 | |
| Like the voice that shatters glass, | 13:34 | |
| the voice of Jesus has shattered Mary's world, | 13:37 | |
| has moved it forward to new possibility, | 13:42 | |
| a new future, a new life. | 13:45 | |
| And Mary is at last able to say to the others, | 13:49 | |
| "I have seen the Lord." | 13:52 | |
| Mary has moved out beyond her preoccupation with the corpse | 13:56 | |
| to an encounter with Christ. | 14:01 | |
| Her cause-effect logic is replaced | 14:03 | |
| by a larger logic called faith. | 14:07 | |
| Mary has turned around at the sound of her name. | 14:15 | |
| She has been countered, encountered not by the dead corpse | 14:20 | |
| she thought she was seeking, but by a living Lord | 14:24 | |
| who is on the move | 14:29 | |
| and is not gonna be tied down by our little logic. | 14:30 | |
| Don't hold me, Mary. | 14:34 | |
| Don't hold me. | 14:38 | |
| Yesterday, National Public Radio's interview | 14:39 | |
| with Bishop Spong about his new book on the resurrection. | 14:43 | |
| Poor Bishop Spong, Duke PhD circa 1955, | 14:46 | |
| hasn't made it out of it yet. | 14:51 | |
| Bishop Spong sang, "All I want to do in this new book | 14:53 | |
| "is to make the resurrection credible. | 14:55 | |
| "Credible to thinking people, | 14:58 | |
| "like my daughter, who has a PhD from Stanford." | 15:00 | |
| Well, Bishop Spong, maybe after you get your PhD | 15:04 | |
| from Stanford, you just miss some things. | 15:07 | |
| You just don't know how to get your mind around some | 15:10 | |
| large things, maybe, I don't know. | 15:13 | |
| It's not easy. | 15:16 | |
| We grope for means for understanding what we | 15:17 | |
| have been encountered by. | 15:21 | |
| Marcel Proust says that sometimes | 15:27 | |
| in reading great literature, you're reading | 15:30 | |
| and maybe the writer describes some secret experience. | 15:34 | |
| Maybe some thought you think only you have had. | 15:38 | |
| Some thought that you've never dared to speak about. | 15:41 | |
| And when that thought is described, it's just like | 15:46 | |
| a hand reaches out from the text and takes your hand. | 15:49 | |
| It's a rare and wonderful moment of recognition. | 15:57 | |
| It's beyond thought, cognition as we know it. | 16:03 | |
| Mary turns around. | 16:07 | |
| Now it seems to me there are at least two ways | 16:12 | |
| to think about things. | 16:13 | |
| Cognition has at least two paths to recognition. | 16:16 | |
| And the first way to think is say when you're working | 16:21 | |
| on some tough math problem and after much effort | 16:24 | |
| you're working on this math problem and you say to yourself, | 16:27 | |
| hey, I got it! | 16:30 | |
| I got it, I got it. | 16:31 | |
| There's another way to think. | 16:36 | |
| It's like, say, when you've been to some great movie, | 16:39 | |
| and the film gets hold of you, | 16:42 | |
| and you emerge from the theater and you're changed | 16:44 | |
| and you walk out into another world. | 16:47 | |
| You don't come out of the movie and say, | 16:51 | |
| I got it, I got it, I got it. | 16:53 | |
| No. | 16:58 | |
| It gets you. | 17:01 | |
| You and I, dying as we are, have come here today trying | 17:07 | |
| to find Jesus with Mary Magdalene. | 17:12 | |
| To hold him in our brains, to search for him using | 17:17 | |
| whatever cognitive means we have. | 17:20 | |
| But you don't find Jesus, you don't apprehend him | 17:24 | |
| and hold him like a red wheelbarrow, no. | 17:27 | |
| He calls your name, he shatters your world, | 17:31 | |
| he returns, he intrudes. | 17:35 | |
| You don't find Jesus, | 17:38 | |
| the risen Christ finds you. | 17:41 | |
| (uplifting music) | 17:47 |
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