John Moye interview recording, 1993 July 29
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| Karen Ferguson | —James City? | 0:01 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 0:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Where were you born? | 0:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Leesville. | 0:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | Leesville. | 0:06 |
| John Henry Moye | Yep. | 0:07 |
| Karen Ferguson | And when did you come to James City? | 0:08 |
| John Henry Moye | Came while I was young. | 0:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | When you were young? | 0:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 0:16 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Why did your family move here? | 0:17 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 0:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | You don't know? | 0:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 0:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | You don't know? | 0:21 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 0:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | What was your family doing in Leesville? What did they do for a living? | 0:23 |
| John Henry Moye | They worked on the farm. | 0:27 |
| Karen Ferguson | On the farm? | 0:27 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 0:27 |
| Karen Ferguson | And what did they do when they arrived here? What did your parents for work when they arrived here? | 0:32 |
| John Henry Moye | She worked in the kitchen. | 0:36 |
| Karen Ferguson | In the, sorry? | 0:39 |
| John Henry Moye | [indistinct 00:00:42]. | 0:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. How old were you when you arrived here? | 0:48 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, very young. | 0:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Very young? | 0:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 0:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | What was it like around here in James City when you arrived? How was it different than it is today? | 0:56 |
| John Henry Moye | All of those houses. | 1:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 1:00 |
| John Henry Moye | All these houses there. But now, it has out there—it is more houses now, than what it used to be. | 1:11 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Were there many businesses here when you were growing up? | 1:19 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah, not yet. Two. | 1:22 |
| Karen Ferguson | Two? | 1:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 1:22 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kind of businesses? | 1:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Port guard and mill. | 1:22 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 1:22 |
| John Henry Moye | The mill down in James City. | 1:22 |
| Karen Ferguson | A mill? | 1:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. And port guard is right down here. | 1:27 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kind of mill was it? | 1:27 |
| John Henry Moye | Lumber mill. | 1:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Lumber mill. And did your father work there? | 1:44 |
| John Henry Moye | A little while. My daddy lived in New York. | 1:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | He lived in New York? | 1:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah, that's where he went. | 1:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. All right. So you grew up with your mother? | 1:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 1:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? How many brothers and sisters did you have? | 2:01 |
| John Henry Moye | One sister. | 2:03 |
| Karen Ferguson | One sister? | 2:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 2:03 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you have any other kinfolks living in James City? | 2:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 2:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Who? Who was that? | 2:50 |
| John Henry Moye | The Foy's and the Lee's. | 2:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 2:50 |
| John Henry Moye | And that was it, so—ain't no Moyes down here but me. | 2:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Okay. | 2:50 |
| John Henry Moye | And Lees, the boy, they stay down there, right there. | 2:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 2:50 |
| John Henry Moye | And sometimes they [indistinct 00:02:51]. | 2:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Did you do things with your kinfolk? Were you close family? | 2:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 2:59 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kinds of things would you do together? | 2:59 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, depends on if I go for—I'd go out fishing. | 3:03 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 3:06 |
| John Henry Moye | Crabbing. | 3:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 3:06 |
| John Henry Moye | That's about all. | 3:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. How about the people around here? Were you close to the neighbors around you? | 3:07 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 3:27 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. What kinds of things would people do to help each other out? | 3:28 |
| John Henry Moye | Give them stuff, sometimes they would want to buy something on the side of [indistinct 00:03:34]— | 3:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 3:34 |
| John Henry Moye | —and they'd get it from them. | 3:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Right. What kind of house—what was your house like that you grew up in? | 3:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. It was a house that goes like that. | 4:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. Okay. | 4:02 |
| John Henry Moye | It burned, it caught afire. | 4:17 |
| Karen Ferguson | It burned in a fire? | 4:17 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 4:23 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? When was that? | 4:32 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, years. | 4:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 4:32 |
| John Henry Moye | Years ago. | 4:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah, yeah. When you were growing up, were there adults in the neighborhood who you really liked? Men in the neighborhood who looked after you or who you would spend some time with? | 4:35 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, they're dead. | 4:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | But when they were—who were they? | 4:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Ike Long, and then McKinsley White. That's about all. | 4:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | What would you do with them? | 4:45 |
| John Henry Moye | I helped them on—they had a little farm they worked on. A garden that—they called it a garden then. Started growing a little garden that they raised stuff in. | 4:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | So you did some farming with them? | 5:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 5:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Gardening? Okay. Where did you go to school here? | 5:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Right down there. | 5:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you like school? | 5:58 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 6:07 |
| Karen Ferguson | What did you like about it? | 6:07 |
| John Henry Moye | About every day, you learn something new. I like that. | 6:07 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Were there any teachers that you admired? | 6:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 6:17 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did they live in James City? | 6:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 6:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Where did they live? | 6:21 |
| John Henry Moye | In Kidville. | 6:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 6:21 |
| John Henry Moye | They had a—I think it's gone. About way on the other side of the railway. | 6:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-uh. Were you able to go to high school? | 6:43 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 6:44 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Did you go out to work? | 6:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 6:47 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? What kind of work did you do? | 6:47 |
| John Henry Moye | I played with—I went down before the accident. Getting the geese and that stuff. | 6:47 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you like that work? Yeah? What kind of other work have you done during your life? | 6:48 |
| John Henry Moye | I drove a taxi a long time. | 6:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | You drove a taxi? | 7:25 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 7:25 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where did you—what company did you drive for? | 7:26 |
| John Henry Moye | The [indistinct 00:07:30]. | 7:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 7:28 |
| John Henry Moye | And then when I got out of school, I drove trucks. I was a truck driver, working on a fish ship. | 7:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | You worked at fishing? | 7:28 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 7:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | For how long? Where was that? Was that here in James City? | 7:49 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 7:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where was that? | 7:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Raleigh. | 7:53 |
| Karen Ferguson | In what? In Raleigh? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh. Okay. Huh. What did you like about driving a taxi? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | I didn't like that a lot. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | You didn't like it? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why not? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Because some people, they get in there and go where they're going, going to get out talking about they don't have enough money. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Things they should have. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | I said, "That day ain't going to ever come." | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | All right. That's why I don't like it there. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. What did you do for a good time when you were—after you left school? What kinds of things were there, that you could do, when you wanted to have a good time? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Nothing. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Just sit around and talk, and drink wild drinks, and tell jokes and stuff. That's all. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you ever get married? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you have to work while you were going to school? No? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | After you get out. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | After you got out of school? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Were you ever in the Army? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? You were in World War II? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you go overseas? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where did you go? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Hawaii. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Hawaii. Okay. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. And I went to [indistinct 00:10:25], but that's about three weeks working though. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | They ain't paying. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | And then I signed up, and I came home. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | What did you do after you came home? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Nothing. I wasn't home long before I left. | 7:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. And went to? | 7:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Raleigh. | 7:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | Went to Raleigh. | 8:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 8:03 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you look Raleigh better than James City? | 10:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 11:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why was that? | 11:09 |
| John Henry Moye | A lot more over there. More places to go. | 11:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. What kinds of things did you do there that you couldn't do in James City? | 11:09 |
| John Henry Moye | Nothing. I worked on a fish truck. | 11:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Did you earn more money there than you had in James City? | 11:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 11:24 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Right. Where did your family come from? They came from Leesville originally? | 11:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Right down in there. | 11:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Do you remember anything about your grandparents? | 11:41 |
| John Henry Moye | No, I don't. | 11:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? | 11:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. The only thing I know, was anything. | 11:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Okay. You said your father went up to New York City, did any of your other relatives or friends go north? | 11:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh— | 11:59 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-uh? | 11:59 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 12:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? | 12:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Some cousins. I have a few cousins up there. | 12:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 12:01 |
| John Henry Moye | And some brothers, by him. | 12:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Did you ever go north? | 12:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 12:23 |
| Karen Ferguson | Never? | 12:23 |
| John Henry Moye | I went up there—we went up there about a week or something like that. | 12:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 12:37 |
| John Henry Moye | I didn't like it. | 12:37 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why didn't you like it? | 12:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Too rough. | 12:37 |
| Karen Ferguson | Too rough? | 12:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 12:37 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kind of roughness was there up there? | 12:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Like about to get shot or something, and get killed. | 12:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Was there anything else didn't like about there? | 12:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 12:53 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Was there anything you did like? | 12:56 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 13:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? No. How long did you stay up there? | 13:04 |
| John Henry Moye | A week. | 13:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | A week. Okay. | 13:06 |
| John Henry Moye | I went about five, six times. | 13:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? | 13:06 |
| John Henry Moye | But stayed about a week at any time. | 13:11 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. When you were growing up, did people help each other out in James City? | 13:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 13:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | What did they do for each other? | 13:24 |
| John Henry Moye | Everything. | 13:25 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 13:41 |
| John Henry Moye | [indistinct 00:13:41] if they're eating something they're having. | 13:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you go to church when you were growing up? | 13:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 13:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where did you go? | 13:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Right down there. | 13:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. What church is that? | 14:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Pilgrim. Pilgrim. | 14:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 14:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Pilgrim's Chapel. | 14:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Okay. Did your mother go regularly to church? | 14:08 |
| John Henry Moye | No, she was working. | 14:13 |
| Karen Ferguson | She was working? | 14:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 14:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | What did she do again, to earn a living? | 14:15 |
| John Henry Moye | It was work in the kitchen. | 14:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | In the kitchen? | 14:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. Cooking. | 14:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where was that? In somebody's house? | 14:23 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 14:24 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. All right. Did she have to live there? | 14:27 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. She was home. She came home every night. | 14:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. But she had to work on Sundays too? | 14:33 |
| John Henry Moye | Sometimes. | 14:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Did you like church a lot? What kinds of things would you do at church? | 14:34 |
| John Henry Moye | I was president of the choir. The number two choir. | 14:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | The number two choir? | 14:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 14:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you like to sing? | 14:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. When I got sick, I was put down. So now, I ain't—I don't hold no [indistinct 00:15:33] in there. | 14:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 14:52 |
| John Henry Moye | So I was sick, I came home. | 14:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | All right. When did you come back to James City, after being in Raleigh? | 15:56 |
| John Henry Moye | It was '46. '46. | 15:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. '46? | 16:05 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 16:05 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. And you've been living here ever since? | 16:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 16:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | What did you do when you came back from Raleigh? | 16:12 |
| John Henry Moye | Worked out there for a fish house. | 16:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, at the fish house? | 16:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 16:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Were you doing that in Raleigh as well? | 16:14 |
| John Henry Moye | I worked on a fish truck. | 16:16 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Okay. | 16:35 |
| John Henry Moye | Yep. I was working in a fish house. | 16:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. What did you do there? | 16:35 |
| John Henry Moye | It mostly was washing them, boxing them. | 16:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Okay. How many people worked with you in that fish house? | 16:47 |
| John Henry Moye | About four. | 16:49 |
| Karen Ferguson | Four? | 16:49 |
| John Henry Moye | Most of the time, a fish boat would come in, and then they would hire more. | 16:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. What has been your favorite job in your life? What job did you like the best? | 17:02 |
| John Henry Moye | I liked that fish house. | 17:05 |
| Karen Ferguson | Here in New— | 17:09 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah, in them. | 17:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why did you like that? | 17:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Because they about had that—it was going some places then. Sometimes, [indistinct 00:17:27] over the trap, and you'd go out and eat down there. According to him, he's given [indistinct 00:17:34] of it back. | 17:13 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Do you—what were some of the places that Black people couldn't go in this area, when you were growing up? | 17:47 |
| John Henry Moye | All the cafes. | 17:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. The cafes. | 17:51 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 17:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 17:51 |
| John Henry Moye | And couldn't go to hotels. | 17:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 17:51 |
| John Henry Moye | Unless you were working there. | 17:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. So you could work there, but you couldn't eat? | 17:51 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 17:51 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 17:51 |
| John Henry Moye | Well, the cook would give you your food in the kitchen. | 18:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:34 |
| John Henry Moye | And they'd eat in there and then come out when they call you. | 18:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:34 |
| John Henry Moye | If they don't ever call you, you'd come out and eat next door. | 18:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Was it different over in James City? Did you like being over here because there were really Black people that lived here? | 18:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Huh? Yeah. | 18:43 |
| Karen Ferguson | Was it—did you like going over to New Bern? | 18:43 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 18:48 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Why not? | 18:50 |
| John Henry Moye | It was rough. | 18:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Too rough? | 18:53 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 18:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why? What was rough about it over in New Bern? | 18:54 |
| John Henry Moye | I think it was, some of them will walk up to you, you know somebody's behind you. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | But you don't know where they're at, where you're going to turn down. They were liable to cut you or shoot you. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Wasn't nothing. The Ole Opry is dead. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Today, they ain't doing nothing. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Yeah. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | That's why come I can't understand the law. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | When a man kills somebody— | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | —he ain't going to get charged. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Give him the same thing you gave me. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Those days over with. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | But now it's the—the lawyer you have to pay a whole lot of money now. That's what it is. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | The lawyer making the money. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Was this someone you knew who was killed? | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Who was that? | 18:57 |
| John Henry Moye | My cousin. | 18:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Your girlfriend? | 19:02 |
| John Henry Moye | My cousin. | 19:59 |
| Karen Ferguson | Your cousin. How was he killed? | 20:00 |
| John Henry Moye | A man came out and shot a person in the arm, and then she closed up. And then they didn't have nothing. | 20:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 20:00 |
| John Henry Moye | Her mama closing up the place, and right in that door. | 20:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 20:00 |
| John Henry Moye | And that's it. Just turned right around and shot him, before the day is over. | 20:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 20:00 |
| John Henry Moye | Shot him and killed him. | 20:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Was your cousin—did the police come? | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Was the man arrested? | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Did anything happen to him? | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | He pulled some time. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | He—yeah? Uh-huh. | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | And that was my cousin's funeral. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Now I had another cousin, his oldest son, he killed a man. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Huh. | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Killed him dead. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | When was this? | 20:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Back in the '50s. | 20:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Why did he kill somebody? | 21:09 |
| John Henry Moye | Just mean. | 21:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Just mean? | 21:12 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 21:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. What happened to your cousin's son? Did he go to prison? | 21:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Yep. | 21:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 21:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 21:24 |
| Karen Ferguson | Do you know a lot of people—have a lot of people you've known had to go to jail or no? | 21:28 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 21:30 |
| Karen Ferguson | Do you remember the police coming after Black people for things that they hadn't done? | 21:36 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 21:43 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kinds of things were those? | 21:44 |
| John Henry Moye | Anything. | 21:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-uh. Yeah. | 21:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Anything happen, they start looking for Black people. | 21:48 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 21:55 |
| John Henry Moye | It wasn't White people going there then. | 21:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Do you remember—did that ever happen to you? | 22:05 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 22:07 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Why not? How did you stay away from the police? How did you— | 22:08 |
| John Henry Moye | Well I started talking, I really didn't too much carry them. I led and would go somewhere else. | 22:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 22:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Or go home, one. | 22:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Did your mother or your—anybody ever tell you how to stay out of trouble? Did you— | 22:36 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 22:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | How? How would she tell you? | 22:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Just don't get in too big of a crowd. | 22:46 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 22:46 |
| John Henry Moye | Because the crowd gets too big, you be involved in it. | 22:46 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Did the police come over to James City very much? Did they protect people over here? | 23:06 |
| John Henry Moye | Not much. | 23:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Can you remember a time when the police should have come and they didn't protect the community? | 23:11 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 23:30 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Do you remember ever getting in trouble with Whites who weren't—not the police, but Whites coming after Black people in this area at all? | 23:33 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 23:43 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. When you traveled to New York City and to other places, did you have to ride on a Jim Crow car? | 23:44 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. I always was in an automobile. | 24:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, in an automobile? | 24:02 |
| John Henry Moye | Right. | 24:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. When you go up in the automobile, would you have to—could you stop anywhere? | 24:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 24:26 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Where would you stop? | 24:29 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, yes. The filling station. | 24:29 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh. Yeah. But when you were driving up there, if you had to stop for gas or something like that, were you able to stop? Would people give you gas? | 24:29 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 24:31 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. How about if you wanted to get something to eat? | 24:32 |
| John Henry Moye | You bought something out of there. | 24:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 24:33 |
| John Henry Moye | But like a café? No. | 24:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. When you came back and you worked in the fish house, did you work in James City or did you work in New Bern? | 24:51 |
| John Henry Moye | New Bern. | 24:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | New Bern? | 24:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Yes. | 24:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you know anybody who could work in James City? Who got jobs in James City? | 24:58 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kinds of things did people who used to work in James City, what did they do? What were they? | 25:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Most of them worked right out there. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 25:09 |
| John Henry Moye | That's a problem. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | In the mill? | 25:09 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. How about the women? What did they do? | 25:09 |
| John Henry Moye | We all worked. They had a crab person. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | A crab—crabbing? | 25:09 |
| John Henry Moye | And then I worked for a—it was a canning plant. They canned for [indistinct 00:25:51]. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 25:09 |
| John Henry Moye | [indistinct 00:25:56]. All kinds of different stuff. But that was back there in James City. | 25:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Was this a White man who opened this canning factory? | 26:32 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. Most of them. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | You know him? | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | No, I don't know about him. Was he a good man? | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why was he good? | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | He had to be kind of good because he had so many Colored people with him. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Because that's about all he had, were Colored people. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | They didn't have any White people. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. So only Black people worked in the canning factory? | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | That's right. | 26:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Did he pay people well? | 26:39 |
| John Henry Moye | No. It wasn't too well. | 26:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. When do you remember Black people in this area starting to earn a little bit more money? Was there a time when they started to earn a little more money? | 26:44 |
| John Henry Moye | Well, they started earning money—they were getting more money, I stopped—I quit working. | 26:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | After you quit work? | 26:55 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 26:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | What happened? Why did they start earning more then? What kinds of jobs were they doing then? | 27:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Some of them went out of the house cooking, but still was making more money. | 27:13 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Do you remember people working at Cherry Point, and helping to build Cherry Point Marine Base? Do you remember any of those kinds of jobs? | 27:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 27:44 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm? | 27:52 |
| John Henry Moye | But that was when I went to Raleigh. | 27:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. That was when you were in Raleigh? | 27:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 27:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Now did you know anybody who worked over there in Cherry Point? | 28:04 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 28:07 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Did you ever try to get a job there? No? Why did you come back from Raleigh? Why did you leave Raleigh? | 28:10 |
| John Henry Moye | The Whites started working the hay bale I worked on. Hampton, Virginia. | 28:24 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 28:49 |
| John Henry Moye | Then I went to the truck from there. | 28:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 28:50 |
| John Henry Moye | Went to Hampton, Virginia to work and came back to North Carolina, already sharp. | 28:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Okay. So you went to Virginia? | 28:50 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 28:50 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why did you—you were looking for work there or what? What were you doing? | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | I worked there. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, you had a job? | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, yeah. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. What were you doing? | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Working on a sea ship. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Helping them out at sea. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | I'll tell y'all something, it took two hands. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Right. | 28:52 |
| John Henry Moye | So me and him. | 28:52 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. When you went away, did you stay in contact with people here in James City? Did you come back while you were away? | 29:26 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 29:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Was your mother still living? | 29:33 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 29:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Mm-hmm. When you were working in New Bern, did people—did people in James City and New Bern, did they do things together? The Black people. | 29:52 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 30:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Did you have many friends who lived in New Bern? | 30:13 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 30:16 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? No. | 30:16 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 30:16 |
| Karen Ferguson | No. Did people from New Bern and James City like each other? | 30:20 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 30:26 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why not? | 30:27 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 30:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 30:29 |
| John Henry Moye | I didn't have but one finger. | 30:29 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Were there things that they did? How did they show that they didn't like each other? | 30:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Just did everything they could to—against you. | 30:40 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. What kinds of things? | 30:40 |
| John Henry Moye | Like taking stuff and saying that you did it. | 30:53 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Were people as well off here, in James City, as they were in New Bern? | 31:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 31:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Mr. Moye, do you ever remember going to a thing called a June Jordan Dance? | 31:17 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 31:17 |
| Karen Ferguson | Were there any joints or Piccolos in this area? | 31:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 31:38 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 31:38 |
| John Henry Moye | There was one. | 31:38 |
| Karen Ferguson | One? What was it called? | 31:38 |
| John Henry Moye | Harpo's Place. | 31:38 |
| Karen Ferguson | Hop—sorry? | 31:38 |
| John Henry Moye | Harpo. Harpo. | 31:38 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Uh-huh. Did you ever go to those places? | 31:38 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 31:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. What did you do there? | 31:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Sit down. | 31:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Sit down? | 31:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Sometimes dance. | 31:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Did you like to dance? | 31:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah, I did dance. | 31:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Uh-huh. Did you have any special girlfriends when you were a teenager? | 31:53 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh, no. | 32:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Okay. So you—would all the young people go to the joint? | 32:02 |
| John Henry Moye | Just about. | 32:26 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. What other kinds of things would you do? Did you go to the movies? | 32:27 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 32:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where did you go to the movies? | 32:31 |
| John Henry Moye | New Bern. | 32:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | In New Bern? | 32:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 32:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you go to the Black theater or the White theater? | 32:36 |
| John Henry Moye | Black. | 32:37 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 32:37 |
| John Henry Moye | I ain't ever been to the Whites. | 32:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. You never were there? | 32:43 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 32:44 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why didn't you go there? | 32:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Started to say, you couldn't go there. | 32:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | You couldn't? Even in the balcony? | 32:46 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 33:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? How have things changed here in James City, since you grew up here? | 33:17 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 33:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | You don't know? | 33:21 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 33:21 |
| Karen Ferguson | Do you think it's gotten better or worse here? Have— | 33:43 |
| John Henry Moye | I believe it got worse. | 33:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why? | 33:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Because everything people do in this place now, they have their hand out. | 33:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 34:12 |
| John Henry Moye | But when it comes down to them, they don't have anything. | 34:14 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. When you were growing up, did you ever see a doctor? Was there a doctor you could go to? | 34:15 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 34:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. Was he here in James City? | 34:19 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 34:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? | 34:19 |
| John Henry Moye | New Bern. | 34:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | In New Bern? | 34:19 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 34:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | Was he a Black doctor? | 34:28 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 34:29 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. What doctor was that? | 34:30 |
| John Henry Moye | Dr. Onan. | 34:31 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Did you ever have to go to the hospital when you were younger? | 34:37 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 34:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 34:45 |
| John Henry Moye | I was in the hospital, I think, and the stitches— | 34:45 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. How old were you when that happened? | 34:45 |
| John Henry Moye | About 50. About 50. | 34:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | 50? Okay. Did you go to the White hospital here, or did you go to the— | 34:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Colored. | 35:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | —Colored? To Big Shepherd Hospital? | 35:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 35:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 35:10 |
| John Henry Moye | I went—started going to the other one. That's when Big Shepherd closed. | 35:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Did you get good care there, do you think? | 35:38 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 35:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | When your mother—do you remember your mother having a midwife or—were you younger or older than your sister? | 35:47 |
| John Henry Moye | I was younger. | 35:53 |
| Karen Ferguson | Younger. | 35:55 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 35:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | So you were the youngest child, huh? | 35:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 35:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | When you were growing up, did you just live with your mother and your sister? | 36:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 36:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Was there anybody else? | 36:07 |
| John Henry Moye | Grandma. | 36:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Your grandmother. Okay. | 36:09 |
| John Henry Moye | That's right. My daddy's mama. | 36:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | What was your grandmother like? Were you close to her? | 36:16 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 36:18 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. What kinds of things would she tell you about? | 36:19 |
| John Henry Moye | She was always telling me, when I used to go out, "Don't get in none of this trouble." | 36:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 36:19 |
| John Henry Moye | "And don't borrow nothing that doesn't belong to you." | 36:19 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Okay. Did she ever tell you about her childhood? About what was it like coming up for her? | 36:40 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 36:44 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? How about your mother? What kind of person was she? | 36:44 |
| John Henry Moye | She always told me too, "Don't get in nothing." And they told me if it was something I thought, leave. | 36:49 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Did you know any of your other grandparents? No? | 37:02 |
| John Henry Moye | Nothing but my mama's dad. | 37:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. | 37:02 |
| John Henry Moye | I knew him. | 37:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | What was he like? | 37:02 |
| John Henry Moye | I just knew him, that's all. | 37:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Okay, Mr. Moye. I think I've about finished here. [INTERRUPTION 00:38:13] your father, after he left for New York City? | 38:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Yep. | 38:18 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. When would you see him? | 38:23 |
| John Henry Moye | I saw him around '56. | 38:23 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. | 38:23 |
| John Henry Moye | And then I went up there four or five times. | 39:13 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. So he kept contact with you and your sister, after he went up there? And your mother? | 39:14 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 39:15 |
| Karen Ferguson | Do you know what your zip code is? | 39:33 |
| John Henry Moye | 28560. | 39:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | 6-0? Okay, thanks. When were you born, Mr. Moye? | 39:33 |
| John Henry Moye | 1913. | 39:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | 1913? Do you know the day? | 39:33 |
| John Henry Moye | On March the 4th. | 39:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | March 4th? Okay. And you were born in Leesville? Where? Can you remember anything about Leesville? | 39:33 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 39:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | What can you remember? | 39:33 |
| John Henry Moye | About—back in the day. And then it was a house here and a house there. | 39:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Did your family—you said that your family was farming, is that right? | 40:07 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 40:09 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you own your own farm? | 40:10 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 40:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh? | 40:17 |
| John Henry Moye | But I started to tell you, it wasn't much. | 40:17 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. | 40:17 |
| John Henry Moye | As far as I call it, it wasn't. | 40:17 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. So your family just had enough land to have a garden? | 40:31 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 40:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Did they work on other people's farms? | 40:35 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 40:38 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Okay. Were you old enough to work then? | 40:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 40:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? Okay. You've never been married, right? | 40:48 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 40:49 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. What was your mother's name? | 40:49 |
| John Henry Moye | Patience. | 40:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Patience? | 40:54 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 40:54 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Patience Moye? | 40:59 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. Moye-Foy. | 41:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. What was her maiden name? What was— | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Foy. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | How do you spell that? F-O-Y? | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Do you know when she was born? | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? When did she pass? | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | 1952. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | 1952. Was she born in Leesville? | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | No, down from them. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where? | 41:01 |
| John Henry Moye | Down there by Bishop School. | 41:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. And she was a cook, you said? | 41:06 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 41:06 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Did cooks earn more money than some other people who worked in people's houses? | 41:06 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 41:46 |
| Karen Ferguson | No? | 41:46 |
| John Henry Moye | They didn't make any— | 41:46 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. And she worked for White folk? | 41:55 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 41:59 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Okay. Did she ever—did the family she worked for, did they give her—you anything, or did they—did they treat her well at work, do you think? | 41:59 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 42:10 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. How so? What would they do? | 42:10 |
| John Henry Moye | They gave us our house. Well, it really wasn't no place then. | 42:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. | 42:34 |
| John Henry Moye | It was—he gave her—me that money, when she was in the hospital. | 42:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right. Oh, he gave her money when she was in the hospital? | 42:38 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 42:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. In James City here, did people raise gardens? | 42:39 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 42:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Did they have animals as well? Did they have any stock? | 42:52 |
| John Henry Moye | One or two people. | 42:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? | 42:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 42:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | What kind of stuff did they have? | 43:02 |
| John Henry Moye | They had mules. | 43:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mule? | 43:02 |
| John Henry Moye | Mules and horses. | 43:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. How about chickens and that kind of stuff? | 43:02 |
| John Henry Moye | Oh, yeah. | 43:03 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Mm-hmm. Did you have chickens? | 43:04 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 43:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Did you have to take care of them? | 43:11 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 43:12 |
| Karen Ferguson | Mm-hmm. What was your father's name? | 43:18 |
| John Henry Moye | John. | 43:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. John Henry Moye? | 43:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Senior. | 43:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Do you know when he was born? | 43:30 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 43:39 |
| Karen Ferguson | When did he pass? | 43:41 |
| John Henry Moye | It was around '55. | 43:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | Maybe '55? | 43:41 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 43:41 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where was he born? Was he born in Leesville? | 43:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 43:43 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. What was his occupation? | 43:55 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 43:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | You don't know? What was your sister's name? | 43:55 |
| John Henry Moye | Arlene. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Sorry? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Arlenia. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | How do you spell that? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | A-R-L-E-N-I-A. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. How much older was she than you? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | About four. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Four years? Is she still living? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | You don't know? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where did she go? | 43:56 |
| John Henry Moye | She would definitely remember. Now I'm remembering, to work out there. That's the last time I saw her. | 43:56 |
| Karen Ferguson | How old were you when you went into Raleigh? Do you remember? | 45:03 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh-uh. | 45:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | Were you in your 20s or? | 45:04 |
| John Henry Moye | I was 30. | 45:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | 30s? | 45:04 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 45:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. How long did you stay there? | 45:04 |
| John Henry Moye | About two years. | 45:05 |
| Karen Ferguson | And then you came back to James City, and you've been here ever since? | 45:34 |
| John Henry Moye | I went to Virginia. | 45:36 |
| Karen Ferguson | Gone to Virginia? | 45:40 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 45:40 |
| Karen Ferguson | How long were you in Virginia? | 45:43 |
| John Henry Moye | About a year and a half. | 45:43 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. And you—I'm not sure if I understood you, did you—you went up there with your boss? Is that right? | 45:44 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 45:55 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Did you like it up there? | 45:56 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 45:57 |
| Karen Ferguson | Did you like it better than James City? | 45:59 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 46:01 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why? | 46:02 |
| John Henry Moye | The people out there weren't always getting in something. | 46:02 |
| Karen Ferguson | And then after that, you came back to James City? | 46:02 |
| John Henry Moye | No. I came back here [indistinct 00:46:34] and went in the Army. | 46:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. And then you came back here? | 46:33 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 46:33 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay. Why did you come back here if you liked these other places better? | 46:37 |
| Karen Ferguson | But you weren't able to do that? Oh, here it is. What was the name of the school that you went to here in James City? | 0:02 |
| John Henry Moye | James City. | 0:08 |
| Karen Ferguson | Okay, and what grade did you finish there? | 0:11 |
| John Henry Moye | 8th. | 0:13 |
| Karen Ferguson | 8th? Okay. Now most of the people that you started school with, did they go to high school, or did they have to go to work after 8th grade? | 0:26 |
| John Henry Moye | Some of them did. | 0:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah, some of them had to go to work or—? | 0:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm.Went to work. | 0:35 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Do you think more people went to high school or they went to work? | 0:37 |
| John Henry Moye | More went to work. | 0:40 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Now in the fish house, when did you stop working there? Is that the job you kept on with until you retired, or—? | 0:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Well—I started working there. I worked at the fish house, and I went to that place you kill meat. | 1:04 |
| Karen Ferguson | Where you kill what? | 1:31 |
| John Henry Moye | Kill meat. | 1:32 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. Meat? | 1:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 1:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Okay. | 1:34 |
| John Henry Moye | A logger plant. | 1:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | A logging— | 1:34 |
| John Henry Moye | Logger plant. | 1:34 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. Okay. And when did you retire? | 1:35 |
| John Henry Moye | I retired in [indistinct 00:01:55]. | 1:47 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 1:47 |
| John Henry Moye | I went to the [indistinct 00:02:19] and [indistinct 00:02:19]. | 2:18 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 2:18 |
| John Henry Moye | [indistinct 00:02:19]. | 2:18 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. | 2:18 |
| John Henry Moye | That was about [indistinct 00:02:19]. | 2:18 |
| Karen Ferguson | So you went to Pilgrim Chapel Church? | 2:19 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 2:22 |
| Karen Ferguson | Do you go there still? And is that Missionary Baptist? Is that right? | 2:22 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 2:28 |
| Karen Ferguson | Have you always been a church-goer? | 2:28 |
| John Henry Moye | No. | 2:40 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. When did you stop going to church? | 2:40 |
| John Henry Moye | I was [indistinct 00:02:40]. I went about 50. | 2:40 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. You started going again when you were 50? | 2:40 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. | 2:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Well, when I went [indistinct 00:02:47], I didn't know [indistinct 00:02:47]. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Okay. | 2:42 |
| John Henry Moye | I went there and then the Army [indistinct 00:02:50]. I think I [indistinct 00:02:55], so I did. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Right, right. So you've always belonged to Pilgrim Chapel? | 2:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Why did you start going to church again after you had stopped? | 2:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Uh, first off, I didn't go much. I went every once in a while, but now that I'm well, I go every Sunday. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Now why do you now when you didn't before? | 2:42 |
| John Henry Moye | I don't know. | 2:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah. Do you remember your baptism? | 3:42 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 3:42 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? When was that? How old were you when you were baptized? | 3:45 |
| John Henry Moye | Well, I don't know. | 3:46 |
| Karen Ferguson | Uh-huh. Were you a man, were you older? | 3:57 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 4:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah, were you over 20? | 4:00 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah, it was the '50s. | 4:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, in the '50s or you were 50? | 4:00 |
| John Henry Moye | Mm-hmm. | 4:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | 1950s? | 4:00 |
| John Henry Moye | It was in the '50s. | 4:00 |
| Karen Ferguson | Oh, okay. Okay, sorry. | 4:20 |
| Karen Ferguson | Have you belonged to any organizations? No? Okay. Okay, I have something that I have to get you to sign. Are you able to sign your name? | 4:20 |
| John Henry Moye | Yeah. | 4:48 |
| Karen Ferguson | Yeah? Okay, I just was wondering if your hand was okay for that. This is an agreement that allows people to listen to your tape and use it. The tape is going to go back to Duke University, but another copy is coming back to the James City Historical Society, so people here can learn about your history, okay? | 4:49 |
| Karen Ferguson | I'm sorry, if you could just read this, or I can read it to you, and if you could just sign where I made that X there. | 5:17 |
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