Elease Smith interview recording, 1995 June 28
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| Mary Hebert | We're going to start kind of like we did last time. Can you tell me your full name and where you were born? | 0:03 |
| Elease Smith | Well, I done told you that on the paper there. Told you [indistinct 00:00:12] | 0:05 |
| Mary Hebert | [indistinct 00:00:12] on tape. Just say your name again so we have it on tape. Ma'am? | 0:13 |
| Elease Smith | Elise Smith. | 0:15 |
| Mary Hebert | Okay. You said on the paper that your parents were sharecroppers? | 0:23 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. Oh my goodness. Cleve Tesberry. My daddy was no Cleve Tesberry. | 0:26 |
| Mary Hebert | Did he work for him? | 0:35 |
| Elease Smith | [indistinct 00:00:39] | 0:35 |
| Mary Hebert | That's okay. | 0:43 |
| Elease Smith | Alright. | 0:43 |
| Mary Hebert | Leave that out. | 0:45 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, but my daddy—Let's see, that was George Richards' place my daddy worked on the farm. That was George Richards. | 0:46 |
| Mary Hebert | George Richards? | 0:57 |
| Elease Smith | My husband worked for [indistinct 00:01:01] Cleve Tesberry. | 0:59 |
| Mary Hebert | After you married, you went down to Cleve Tesberry's land? | 0:59 |
| Elease Smith | Oh no. Mm-mm. | 0:59 |
| Mary Hebert | Did he work for him though? Your husband? | 0:59 |
| Elease Smith | No, not my father. | 1:12 |
| Mary Hebert | Your husband? | 1:13 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, when I first married, I lived on Lonnie Watts' place where my husband born at, raised and born on Lonnie Watts' place. And I married and we stayed there. When we moved off of Lonnie Watts' place, we went to the Richards. George and Cleve Tesberry's, Richards' place. Then we on Cleve Tesberry's place. | 1:13 |
| Mary Hebert | So when you and your husband were living there, did you work as a domestic? | 1:51 |
| Elease Smith | No. Uh-uh. No, no. | 1:53 |
| Mary Hebert | You worked on the farm with [indistinct 00:01:57] | 1:53 |
| Elease Smith | I worked on the farm. Cleve Tesberry's place, I worked the farm work and housework. I did farm work and housework. | 2:05 |
| Mary Hebert | Whose house did you work in there? You worked in— | 2:10 |
| Elease Smith | Worked for the owner. The Tesberry, I worked for the owner of that place. | 2:21 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you cook for them and clean for them? | 2:21 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 2:21 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you take care of their children too? | 2:21 |
| Elease Smith | No, I didn't take care of children. But after they leave off the farm, moved into town. Her daughter lived in the house with her husband, I take care of her daughter—his daughter's children. | 2:23 |
| Mary Hebert | And those were the kids that— | 2:37 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. | 2:37 |
| Mary Hebert | [indistinct 00:02:38] you so much. | 2:37 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, that's the one I take care of there. | 2:37 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were taking care of them, you spent more time with them than the mother did and that kind of stuff? | 2:38 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, that's right. Because I used to go a lot and I could be there with them [indistinct 00:02:50] | 2:44 |
| Mary Hebert | So what would you do at her house? You would cook and clean— | 2:49 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 2:49 |
| Mary Hebert | —and take care of the children? | 2:49 |
| Elease Smith | Mm-hmm. | 2:49 |
| Mary Hebert | Would she give you stuff like food and clothing and things like that? | 3:00 |
| Elease Smith | No, she never give me clothes. I couldn't wear her clothes. She never give me clothes. She tried to give me some food and stuff like that, but they never give me clothes. | 3:03 |
| Mary Hebert | And her children would follow you home? | 3:07 |
| Elease Smith | One of them, the baby did. Yeah. | 3:12 |
| Mary Hebert | You mentioned on the paper that you filled out that you went to school for a couple of years. Why did you have to quit? Because your family needed you to work on the farm? | 3:21 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. Yeah, my mother had—We had all those kids and the biggest I had to do when I was married just take care of my mother's children. I didn't work on the farm too much. I just take care of my mother's children. Because her had nine head of children and I had to be the nurse for the children. But now after I get married, that's when I did work on the farm after getting married. That's when I work on the farm, when I get married. | 3:30 |
| Mary Hebert | So you really didn't do a lot of [indistinct 00:03:59] | 3:58 |
| Elease Smith | No. No, didn't do much of that before, but after I get married, my husband worked on the farm and I got to do a lot of farm work. | 4:00 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you have a garden? | 4:10 |
| Elease Smith | Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. | 4:11 |
| Mary Hebert | What kind of stuff did you grow in the— | 4:12 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, collard and cabbage, white potato and okra and [indistinct 00:04:25] grow every kind of thing on the farm. | 4:14 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you sell any of it? | 4:28 |
| Elease Smith | No, no. Mm-mm. | 4:28 |
| Mary Hebert | [indistinct 00:04:31] all for the family? | 4:28 |
| Elease Smith | No, I give my friend and stuff, like in the garden, when they come, I give them stuff like that out the garden. I never sell nothing. | 4:32 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you preserve a lot? Did you do canning and stuff? | 4:38 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 4:40 |
| Mary Hebert | So you had to work out on the field and then you would [indistinct 00:05:03] do the canning and stuff? | 4:51 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 5:02 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were taking care of your mother's children, she was working in the fields? | 5:02 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. Mm-hmm. | 5:04 |
| Mary Hebert | At what age did the kids start going out and helping? | 5:04 |
| Elease Smith | Well, my brother and my sister, the older one, they used to go out and work then while I was taking care of the other. Now my older, my brother and my sister, my sister was the oldest and I had a brother next. And I was next and the other kids, I had to stay there and take care of them while they worked. | 5:04 |
| Mary Hebert | How old were you when you started taking care of them? | 5:20 |
| Elease Smith | Well, I really don't know. I don't remember that. | 5:23 |
| Mary Hebert | Were you 10 or younger? | 5:25 |
| Elease Smith | Probably something like that. | 5:27 |
| Mary Hebert | Did y'all go to church? Did your family go to church? | 5:40 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. | 5:40 |
| Mary Hebert | Did y'all go to Taw Caw Baptist? | 5:41 |
| Elease Smith | Ooh, no. There's a church called Jerusalem. That's my daddy's church. That where he's buried at. That way down, even the water done picked—the water got that whole section where the church been. | 5:42 |
| Mary Hebert | So the church isn't there anymore? | 5:52 |
| Elease Smith | No. It ain't no more. Called Jerusalem. | 5:52 |
| Mary Hebert | What kind of church—Was that a Baptist church or an AME church or you don't remember? | 5:52 |
| Elease Smith | It was a Baptist. It was a Baptist church. | 6:03 |
| Mary Hebert | How far did y'all live from the church? | 6:03 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, it was a good little ways from the church. | 6:09 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you have to walk? | 6:13 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. Had to walk everywhere. | 6:13 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were going to school, you had to walk? | 6:13 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 6:13 |
| Mary Hebert | You had to walk everywhere? | 6:13 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, and when I was living on the farm, come to Taw Caw, my church, we had to walk there. | 6:24 |
| Mary Hebert | So after you were married, you started going to Taw Caw? | 6:30 |
| Elease Smith | That's before I was married. Before I was married, I remember Taw Caw, going to Taw Caw with my mother and the rest os us [indistinct 00:06:31] old enough. We used to come and tell my mother [indistinct 00:06:31] Taw Caw. | 6:30 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you remember there was a flood out here? Do you remember when that happened? I think it was 1928, so you would have been about nine or 10? A lot of rain for like a week or so. | 6:31 |
| Elease Smith | A flood? | 7:10 |
| Mary Hebert | Yeah. Do you remember when that happened? It rained for a week. | 7:10 |
| Elease Smith | Rained for a week? Yeah, I remember. It rained for a week or something like that. | 7:10 |
| Mary Hebert | After you were married, how far away from Summerton did you live? Was it a couple of miles out of town or— | 7:18 |
| Elease Smith | That's right, a couple mile out of town. | 7:21 |
| Mary Hebert | You were talking about coming in on Saturdays before. Did you have to walk into town on Saturdays? | 7:25 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, we used to walk. My husband had get a car and used to ride after—Was just riding into town then after he get a car. | 7:29 |
| Mary Hebert | So he got a car? | 7:41 |
| Elease Smith | Yes. | 7:44 |
| Mary Hebert | Now I was talking last time about Hoover's time and Roosevelt's time. Do you remember what it was like here during that period? | 7:46 |
| Elease Smith | It was pretty rough, tough— | 7:52 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you— | 7:56 |
| Elease Smith | —during that time. | 7:56 |
| Mary Hebert | Did your husband lose his job? Or did y'all stay on the farm? | 7:58 |
| Elease Smith | No, [indistinct 00:08:11] Yeah, we stayed on the farm. | 8:10 |
| Mary Hebert | Did y'all have trouble getting food and stuff like that when it was scarce? | 8:15 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. Very scarce. | 8:19 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you come into town to get food from the government, things like that? Flour and— | 8:22 |
| Elease Smith | My mother did. During that time, come in and get flour. During the time they had called thing called the freebie flour. My mother used to come into town and get it. | 8:28 |
| Mary Hebert | Did she have any trouble getting it? Did the man who give it out not want to hand it out [indistinct 00:08:42] | 8:38 |
| Elease Smith | Well now, a lot of people had trouble getting their flour, but Mr. Lonnie Watts, we used to live on the place, he would see to her get some flour, get stuff. | 8:42 |
| Mary Hebert | He got her flour? | 8:57 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, her got her flour without any so much a problem because he would see to her for getting her flour. | 8:59 |
| Mary Hebert | And did you— | 9:03 |
| Elease Smith | But a lot of people didn't never to get it but her. He would see to her get flour. | 9:04 |
| Mary Hebert | That was because they worked on his place? | 9:09 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 9:11 |
| Mary Hebert | But you never had any problems with getting flour in the times of the— | 9:21 |
| Elease Smith | No, no. [indistinct 00:09:27] | 9:24 |
| Mary Hebert | Y'all had it on the farm? You said your mother went out to get the flour. You didn't have to do things like that? | 9:31 |
| Elease Smith | No, because see, I was small then. Her would go getting the flour and stuff like that. I never had to go out and get nothing like that on the farm or nothing like that. | 9:34 |
| Mary Hebert | Now— | 9:41 |
| Elease Smith | Even down—Huh? Yeah, her used to go get it but I never used to go. And he would see to her get that flour. Now to get that flour, [indistinct 00:09:54] times they get the lard and stuff to go and they [indistinct 00:10:01] My mother used to raise hog, raise chicken and hog. | 9:43 |
| Mary Hebert | Now when you were taking care of the kids, did you have to take care of the chickens and the hogs too when you were— | 10:06 |
| Elease Smith | My brother used to do that, take care of the chicken and the hog. | 10:18 |
| Mary Hebert | So when you were taking care of the kids, that's all you did was just stayed around the house and— | 10:18 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. | 10:19 |
| Mary Hebert | [indistinct 00:10:21] | 10:19 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I was cleaning house and stuff like that. My mother used to cook. When her come in, her do the cooking. | 10:22 |
| Mary Hebert | Did your brothers and sisters get to go to school? | 10:27 |
| Elease Smith | My younger brother and sister, they get good schooling. My younger brother and sister, but the others didn't get too much because they had to work and they didn't get too much. | 10:31 |
| Mary Hebert | Did your parents want them to go to school? | 10:49 |
| Elease Smith | Huh? | 10:50 |
| Mary Hebert | Did your parents want them to go to school, your younger brother and sister? I mean, did they encourage that? Or it was just because they didn't have to work? | 10:50 |
| Elease Smith | I really don't know because my mama used to farm. See, the oldest one, they had to do the plowing and stuff on the farm. See, my mother farmed after my daddy died and the oldest brother, they had to do the plowing and stuff. | 10:59 |
| Mary Hebert | So she got to stay on the land after your father died and she worked? She worked the land after your father died? | 11:10 |
| Elease Smith | You see her move, probably move from one man to another man. See, they would go—Like a sharecropper or something with them, but you move different places. My father used to sharecrop with—and after he died, my mother didn't sharecrop no more with that man. That's that move and Mr. Lonnie Watts. That was her sharecropper. Now that's the onliest man my mother sharecropped with I know of. | 11:19 |
| Mary Hebert | So she stayed on that land— | 11:44 |
| Elease Smith | Because her stayed in that same spot for quite a while. | 11:54 |
| Mary Hebert | You mentioned she had a lot of hogs and chickens. When y'all butchered a hog, would y'all give the meat out to— | 11:56 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. | 12:03 |
| Mary Hebert | —neighbors. Would they come and help you butcher? | 12:03 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I think so. Some used to come in and help. | 12:06 |
| Mary Hebert | What about vegetables? You said you gave them out when you had your own garden? | 12:11 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, when I had my own garden. Yeah, I would give—My mother used to make a good garden. Her would give me a vegetable too. She used to really makes a good garden. | 12:15 |
| Mary Hebert | Would y'all make your own clothes and things like that? Would you sew your own clothes? | 12:23 |
| Elease Smith | I did. When I get older, I sew my own clothes. I sewed for other people too. | 12:28 |
| Mary Hebert | So you sewed for other people? | 12:29 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I sewed my own clothes. Sewed for other people too. | 12:29 |
| Mary Hebert | What about making quilts and stuff like that? | 12:36 |
| Elease Smith | Oh yeah, I'd make a lot of quilts and stuff. But I don't do much of that now on account of my hand. Yeah, [indistinct 00:12:45] handiwork, I can't do that like I used to. | 12:38 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were making quilts, did women from around the community come and help you or you did it yourself? | 12:50 |
| Elease Smith | I did these by myself. I do all of my quilting and stuff myself. [indistinct 00:13:03] | 12:57 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you ever travel? | 13:03 |
| Elease Smith | I've been to Baltimore twice. I went to New York twice and I went to Baltimore. My oldest sister live in New York and I visit her in New York. And my brothers live in Baltimore, I visit them. But I haven't been no further. | 13:11 |
| Mary Hebert | You've never worked outside of here? You always worked in Summerton? | 13:27 |
| Elease Smith | In Summerton, that's right. All my work I do right here in Summerton. | 13:28 |
| Mary Hebert | Where would you do your shopping for groceries and stuff? | 13:35 |
| Elease Smith | Shopping in town. | 13:39 |
| Mary Hebert | Whose business would you go to? Do you remember? | 13:41 |
| Elease Smith | Let me see. My husband used to do the shopping more— | 13:41 |
| Mary Hebert | More than you? | 13:41 |
| Elease Smith | More, Red Lion, let me remember the name now. [indistinct 00:14:09] but I can't call it. | 14:09 |
| Mary Hebert | Where would you get your— | 14:13 |
| Elease Smith | Different places. Used to buy groceries from Mr. Wells and he used to buy groceries from Mr. Barnes. That mostly where my husband get groceries right there in town when us been together living in town. | 14:16 |
| Mary Hebert | He would go to Mr. Davis? | 14:32 |
| Elease Smith | These different store right there in town, we used to shop. | 14:32 |
| Mary Hebert | Would you go to Mr. Davis's store? No? | 14:33 |
| Elease Smith | No. [indistinct 00:14:43] | 14:42 |
| Mary Hebert | To borrow money, who would he go to for that? | 14:42 |
| Elease Smith | I really don't know. Because he never did [indistinct 00:14:56] borrow. He'd get a little piece of money and get it off the man from the place where you're working, but if you get to get a little piece— | 14:44 |
| Mary Hebert | You get— | 14:58 |
| Elease Smith | [indistinct 00:14:58] get it from him, yeah. | 14:58 |
| Mary Hebert | So the man you worked for would give you the seeds for the crop and those kinds of things? I mean, where'd you get the seed to plant the crop? | 14:58 |
| Elease Smith | Seed to plant the crop and stuff like that, you see, he was sharecropping. | 15:12 |
| Mary Hebert | Right. | 15:16 |
| Elease Smith | The owner where he sharecropped, he'd furnish the seed and everything. They do all that, furnish it and you do the work. | 15:19 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you own the mules and the plows and those things? | 15:26 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, yeah. He had own mules and plow. His own mule and plow. Now they furnished the seed. | 15:28 |
| Mary Hebert | And he did most of the plowing himself? | 15:37 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, he do all the plowing himself. | 15:38 |
| Mary Hebert | And you'd help him pick the cotton? | 15:40 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. | 15:41 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you have a smaller piece of land because you didn't have any children than other people or—? I mean, there was just the two of you on that piece of land? | 15:41 |
| Elease Smith | No, no. [indistinct 00:15:51] Give him about as much as they give anyone who had children. Almost about the same. | 15:41 |
| Mary Hebert | And you could work and produce the same amount as the others? So the two of you worked that land by yourselves? | 15:59 |
| Elease Smith | No, he put—When it time to gather the cotton, he had to get people to help. See, we had to get [indistinct 00:16:15] hands to help pick the cotton. But we never had to get nobody to chop the cotton because me and my husband chop ourselves, but when it time to pick, we had to hire some people to pick cotton. | 16:05 |
| Mary Hebert | How many acres did y'all have to chop yourselves? | 16:25 |
| Elease Smith | How much acre? I believe it was about 12 acre, I believe. | 16:27 |
| Mary Hebert | For the two of you? | 16:37 |
| Elease Smith | Or more, I reckon. Yeah, I believe more, I reckon. I didn't know exactly, but a good piece of land. | 16:41 |
| Mary Hebert | Who lived around you? Did you have brothers and sisters that lived around you when you were an adult? | 16:54 |
| Elease Smith | More so my brothers and—Let me see, no, I had some left. [indistinct 00:17:21] away. | 17:09 |
| Mary Hebert | Did most of them move away? | 17:24 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, [indistinct 00:17:26] move away. When my sister, older sister, in Brooklyn, she went there—Her daddy in Brooklyn and my brother went to Conway. Now my oldest brother, he's still on the farm. He was still on the farm when he died. But the other one, they went away. | 17:25 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you and your husband ever want to go away? | 17:46 |
| Elease Smith | He went one time and didn't stay. I wanted to go so bad, he didn't stay. When I thinking I going, he done come back on me. He never [indistinct 00:17:57] | 17:49 |
| Mary Hebert | Where'd he go? | 17:57 |
| Elease Smith | Huh? | 17:57 |
| Mary Hebert | Where'd he go for that little amount of time? | 17:57 |
| Elease Smith | He went to Baltimore. | 17:58 |
| Mary Hebert | He went to— | 18:02 |
| Elease Smith | Stay a while. Yeah, and I expected to go with—He come back before I get there. So after I had my sister and brother, I just went on my own and take trip up there on my own like that. | 18:03 |
| Mary Hebert | Did y'all have anybody living in your house with you after you got married? Cousins, nieces, nephews? | 18:21 |
| Elease Smith | No, no. No, no. | 18:26 |
| Mary Hebert | It was just the two of you? | 18:27 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. | 18:27 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were working as a domestic here in town, how much did you earn your first job? Do you remember how much they paid you a week? | 18:30 |
| Elease Smith | The first job, before I even came into town, I worked for a lady not far from me, and when I first started, I get 75 cent a week. Worked for 75 cent a week to a dollar. | 18:43 |
| Mary Hebert | Would you buy stuff with that 75 cents a week? | 18:57 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, could do good with it. | 18:59 |
| Mary Hebert | Would you buy cloth to make clothes and— | 19:03 |
| Elease Smith | That's right. That time, you could get cloth for five cents a yard. I could buy cloth and make all my clothes. | 19:06 |
| Mary Hebert | Would you give some to your mom? Would you give some of your money to your mother to help with the household? | 19:14 |
| Elease Smith | No. I had to take care of myself. I got nothing to give her. | 19:25 |
| Mary Hebert | Later on, how much did you earn? | 19:25 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, I really don't know. | 19:31 |
| Mary Hebert | But you remember that first one? | 19:33 |
| Elease Smith | I remember that first one. But now after, gets so—When the minimum wage come, that when I could earn some money then when they start to pay you minimum wage. I worked a good bit of places after they paid the— | 19:35 |
| Mary Hebert | When you were working for 75 cents a week, how many hours a day did you work? Would you go in early in the morning? | 19:49 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. Go in early in the morning and work just about, oh, let's say after 12:00, sometimes about 1:00 or 2:00 or something like that. | 19:54 |
| Mary Hebert | So you'd clean her house and you cook lunch for her? | 20:03 |
| Elease Smith | No, her used to cook. But I cleaned house and I ironed. That my first job. I cleaned house and ironed. | 20:08 |
| Mary Hebert | Now when you were working in town, was it for her daughter? | 20:13 |
| Elease Smith | Huh? | 20:20 |
| Mary Hebert | When you worked in town, for the woman—you took care of her kids? I don't remember her name. | 20:20 |
| Elease Smith | That was out in the country where I lived. Yeah, I used to cook there. I do everything out there in the country. But I work over here in town, I worked there in town, do work and the lady, I cooked for her. Sometime her cook while I clean and sometime I cook. | 20:23 |
| Mary Hebert | Would she help you at all? Would she help you in the kitchen? | 20:41 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. And the lady, Mr. Cleve Tesbery wife, I used to work for her in town. Her used to give me lots of clothes. Her used to give me clothes and different stuff. Her used to give me good. | 20:44 |
| Mary Hebert | Nice stuff? | 21:02 |
| Elease Smith | Oh, yeah. It's the nice stuff they used to give me. | 21:03 |
| Mary Hebert | Now last time when we were talking, we talked about how y'all used to walk on the street on Saturday afternoons and stuff. That's what y'all do for fun? | 21:08 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. | 21:16 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you remember the siren that would sound at the end of the day? | 21:17 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. I remember. | 21:20 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you remember when it started? | 21:22 |
| Elease Smith | I don't. | 21:22 |
| Mary Hebert | [indistinct 00:21:24] | 21:22 |
| Elease Smith | I really don't know now. I can't remember when it started, but I can remember it. | 21:26 |
| Mary Hebert | Were y'all off the streets before it even came on [indistinct 00:21:32] | 21:30 |
| Elease Smith | Yes, uh-huh. Yeah, sometimes I'd just be home already but us could hear when it blows. But us be home. Us don't be on the street that late. | 21:36 |
| Mary Hebert | Were there ever any people who were on the streets that late? | 21:45 |
| Elease Smith | Huh? | 21:46 |
| Mary Hebert | Were there ever any people who didn't get off the streets— | 21:47 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I know. I know it been some, but I can't tell—But I know it's been some on the street. | 21:50 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you know if they got in trouble? | 21:54 |
| Elease Smith | I really don't know. A lot of people already getting in trouble. I really don't know. | 21:55 |
| Mary Hebert | Now last time, Ms. Grayson was telling us about the chain gangs that used to work around here. Do you remember them? | 22:02 |
| Elease Smith | No. Uh-uh. | 22:06 |
| Mary Hebert | They didn't work around where you lived? | 22:07 |
| Elease Smith | No. Uh-uh. I don't remember none of that. | 22:09 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you ever go to the movies when you were— | 22:14 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah. Uh-huh. Sure have. | 22:16 |
| Mary Hebert | There was a balcony in that theater that you had to sit in? Did you have to sit up in the balcony? | 22:23 |
| Elease Smith | No. Uh-uh. We would be down. Right before—be down. Never had it up there. | 22:29 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you remember when the Briggs case happened here, when they tried to desegregate the schools? Do you remember— | 22:39 |
| Elease Smith | Oh yeah, I remember. Brigg. I remember good. | 22:45 |
| Mary Hebert | Could you tell me about it? | 22:46 |
| Elease Smith | No, I sure can't. But I remember. | 22:48 |
| Mary Hebert | You still remember when it happened? | 22:50 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I remember when it happened. | 22:50 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you belong to the NAACP or your husband? | 22:51 |
| Elease Smith | No. | 22:54 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you ever go to any of the meetings? | 22:56 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, I had went to some of their meeting, but I— | 23:00 |
| Mary Hebert | They were in church? | 23:02 |
| Elease Smith | They'd have meeting at church and stuff. | 23:02 |
| Mary Hebert | Did you know Reverend DeLaine or Mr. Briggs or those people? | 23:08 |
| Elease Smith | Oh yeah, I know all of them. I know all of them well. | 23:11 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you remember the first time you voted? | 23:19 |
| Elease Smith | First time I vote? | 23:21 |
| Mary Hebert | Yeah. | 23:22 |
| Elease Smith | I really can't remember. I really— | 23:22 |
| Mary Hebert | Do you think it was during the '60s or did you register after that? | 23:28 |
| Elease Smith | In the '60—No, no, no, no. I don't know. I don't think—No, not in the '60 because I ain't have no registration card or nothing along in them time. Later when I get—I ain't have no registration card or nothing like that in— | 23:40 |
| Mary Hebert | So it was later on that you— | 23:50 |
| Elease Smith | Yeah, it was later on when I could register to vote or something like that. | 23:50 |
| Mary Hebert | That's about all I have to ask you. I mean, because it's just filling in some of the stuff I didn't get to talk about about last time. Is there anything that I didn't ask you about that you want to tell me about? | 23:56 |
| Elease Smith | No, I think we've about covered everything. | 24:05 |
| Mary Hebert | Okay. Like I say, it was just to— | 24:07 |
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