(Mourad speaks in foreign language) 

Translator: I think that what matters today in relation to democracies is that they must be built on law, on justice, not on moral judgment. It's important, it means that laws cannot be based on the statement that so-and-so is bad. The only right question to ask is, does he have the right to do this, or doesn't he? I'll give you a concrete example. Now in France, people say the problem isn't with jihadists, the problem is with radical Islam. There is this concept that didn't exist until now that is being called radical Islam. That is an Islam that would be bad, that wouldn't be compatible with a Republic. And people say, that's the enemy, the true enemy. But I think that by doing so, we only make the problem worse. I mean, we may not agree on our values with other people, but the question remains, is this person allowed to think that way, or must we impose one same way of thinking on everybody? Even when it isn't dangerous? You cannot force people to all think the same way, you cannot attack people for their thoughts. You cannot tell people, this is the way you must think. Is it dangerous or not? That's all that matters. And I say this because radicalization, or even radical Islam for example, it's just ideas. And we must fight ideas with other ideas. We change people's minds by engaging with them, not by forcing them. This is by way of saying that you cannot change the world with a show of force. You can change it with politics and with dialogue. And today most States have decided to change things with a show of force. And that's how come we won't find a solution. I believe this is our problem today. We say we're going to fight a war in order to bring democracy, but you have to show that democracy is the best option, instead of bringing it by force.