Gregory Hunter: What would fellas do if you like a girl? What would you do to try to get in touch with her at all? Abraham Smith: You had to go to her house or send her a message or write her a note, but ain't no phones. Just very few Black people had a phone. Very few. Gregory Hunter: Had a what? A phone? Abraham Smith: A telephone. You had to go to her house or maybe see her in school or whatnot. Write her a note. That was it, if you wanted to get in touch with her. Robert James Georgia: Back in them days if your parents had a car—When I was a young man, you couldn't stay out but so late at night. Maybe he couldn't either. Abraham Smith: Right. Robert James Georgia: Yeah, we couldn't go. Abraham Smith: Right. Robert James Georgia: At sundown, up till I was 17 and 18 years old, I had to be home by 9:00. Say, before sundown I had to be on the [indistinct 00:01:06] all the things, cut wood. We didn't have any light at this time. We had a stove. And so, my father used to let me have the car. Maybe, be home before night. Give you 50 cents. And the most they give you is [indistinct 00:01:31]. Abraham Smith: Yeah, if you get that. I remember my daddy give me a quarter, man. I thought I was rich. Robert James Georgia: Right. Gregory Hunter: What would y'all do on the weekend? Once you got the car and the quarter or fifty cent, what would you have done? Robert James Georgia: I'd go to see [indistinct 00:01:39]. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:01:39] Abraham Smith: Yes, sir. Robert James Georgia: Before if you walk, you can't get the car, then I may ride the mule. Abraham Smith: And if you didn't have no car, you don't see her. Robert James Georgia: That's right. Don't see [indistinct 00:02:03]. Abraham Smith: If she live off from me or whatever you didn't see her till back in school the next— Robert James Georgia: Right, right. Abraham Smith: Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: How did you meet your wife? Abraham Smith: How did I meet her? Well, I tell you, we practically raised up right here Summerton all together. I used to live—Or right even the city limits. She be living right in the city limits right around the [indistinct 00:02:32]. Practically raised up together. I graduated one year ahead of her. I been knowing her all my life. She been knowing me all her life. Gregory Hunter: How did y'all come together, then? Abraham Smith: Well— Gregory Hunter: I'm sure you were raised up with a lot of other girls. Abraham Smith: A lot of other girls—(laughs). Abraham Smith: Yeah. Well, I tell you what, I used to go with one of her best friends. I thought— Gregory Hunter: Did you? Abraham Smith: Yeah. I used to go with one of her best friends. Gregory Hunter: Oh, yeah? Abraham Smith: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: And what happened? Abraham Smith: Well, we had some kind of disagreement. And she finally left here and then I started going with this one, my wife. Gregory Hunter: Oh. Abraham Smith: Mm-hmm. How it really started, I tell you what, I took her to a basketball game one night in Elloree. Ever since then, we going out together every now and then til we finally tied the knot. Mm-hmm. Right. Gregory Hunter: Are you married, Mr. George? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: How'd you meet your wife? Robert James Georgia: I met my wife in Baltimore, Maryland. Gregory Hunter: Okay. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. I was working there. It was [indistinct 00:04:00]. And she used to cook for us here. She used to cook for me. So, that's the way I married my cook. (all laugh) Abraham Smith: Married your cook. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: She used to cook at the job? Robert James Georgia: At her house. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:04:19] so I ended up marrying her. She was older than I was when I married her. I suppose it seemed like I just married her just to have somebody to sleep with. (Smith laughs). We only stayed together for two years. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Did you get married again? Robert James Georgia: I got married again in Florida. So, me and my wife again now, we together now. 30, 38 and [indistinct 00:04:49]. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. So you went to Miami after [indistinct 00:04:50]? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. [indistinct 00:04:53]. Miami is the [indistinct 00:05:00]. Gregory Hunter: What'd you do there? Robert James Georgia: I did construction. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. Mr. Bay, have you ever lived outside of Summerton? Abraham Smith: No. Never did. Never did. Always lived right in Summerton. Gregory Hunter: You have brothers and sisters? Abraham Smith: I have one brother and one sister. Gregory Hunter: And they stay in Summerton too? Abraham Smith: Yeah, but my brother stayed there for a while and my sister stayed there for a while. Yeah, my sister stay because she been in school. Then she moved on up to Greenville. She up there right now. And my brother live in New York. He stayed around here. Oh, he leave here about '56 or seven, somewhere around there. Gregory Hunter: Oh. Abraham Smith: Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: You, you have brothers. I know you have a brother. You have any sisters? Robert James Georgia: I have two sisters. One live in Baltimore, Maryland. The other live in here. Gregory Hunter: Don't you have a brother? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. I got five boys. My oldest brother, he retired. He was living in Florida. He moved back. And Leroy, he's on disability, he used to live in Florida. I have one brother, he's still in Lauderdale. He had retired. [indistinct 00:06:29] he's on disability [indistinct 00:06:30]. But I retired [indistinct 00:06:34] I work here. As I move back in '76, I was living up [indistinct 00:06:36]. I move back in '76. [indistinct 00:06:46]. Gregory Hunter: When did a lot of Black people start leaving Summerton? A lot of people left right after they graduated high school. Robert James Georgia: Right after they get out of high school they left. Abraham Smith: My goodness. No, some of them left the same day. Robert James Georgia: That's right. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Abraham Smith: Yeah. That's right. Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: But a lot of them went to places like New York? Abraham Smith: New York, Baltimore, Florida. Robert James Georgia: Because it wasn't no decent jobs for young kid. Abraham Smith: Wasn't nothing to do. Robert James Georgia: Nothing to do. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:07:20]. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. When World War II happened, were y'all drafted to the war? Abraham Smith: No. Gregory Hunter: Y'all were too young. Abraham Smith: I was too young. Young in World War II. I registered for the Korean War, I think. I registered, but I didn't pass. Robert James Georgia: I didn't pass either. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Abraham Smith: My brother went in service. Gregory Hunter: Any other things that y'all can think off that I may not have asked [indistinct 00:07:55]. I think that there're a lot of other questions I have, but I want to find out what's on y'all minds today. What other things that y'all can think of [indistinct 00:08:05]. Abraham Smith: Yeah, I know, he and I couldn't tell you, but talking about my mom right now and ask some questions. I'm not going to answer some of them. Gregory Hunter: You not going answer that? You were saying? Abraham Smith: No, I wasn't saying anything— Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. Abraham Smith: Just thinking really. Gregory Hunter: What other kind of work did you two do? You say you were doing farm with your family? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. [indistinct 00:08:51]. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Did you do any other kind? You said you [indistinct 00:08:55] streets too. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. I worked for his dad's [indistinct 00:09:00]. When I was going to school, I used to work for Jeff Davis, [indistinct 00:09:12]. Then I working for Greg [indistinct 00:09:14]. After I got out of school, I went to Baltimore [indistinct 00:09:20] and I started working. First job I had was [indistinct 00:09:26]. After that, I worked [indistinct 00:09:31] make marinades. [indistinct 00:09:31]. And I left Baltimore. I came home and stayed for a while. Then from there, I moved to Miami, Florida and I started doing construction work. Gregory Hunter: What made you want to leave South Carolina? Same reason y'all came here? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Wasn't nothing for me to do. [indistinct 00:09:59]. Yeah, went to Baltimore and start working. [indistinct 00:10:07]. For the job, I went onto, made $40. That was amazing how much money. It was amazing how much money I had like this. Two $20 bills, $40. I didn't know, I was paid $6 a week [indistinct 00:10:21], $6 a week. I had all that extra money on my own. Abraham Smith: Praising the Lord that day. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Yeah. $40 a week. Abraham Smith: Mm-hmm. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Y'all remember the [indistinct 00:10:42]? Robert James Georgia: I didn't see him [indistinct 00:10:47] that long. After that [indistinct 00:10:49]. And you see [indistinct 00:10:54] over there. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:10:56]. Quite a few times [indistinct 00:10:59]. I had never seen him [indistinct 00:11:01] over there. Gregory Hunter: They never did anything here? Robert James Georgia: Not that I recall. Gregory Hunter: What year do you remember seeing your pastor? Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:11:18] all this going on and after doing the [indistinct 00:11:18]. And everything early '60s. Gregory Hunter: What would y'all do when y'all saw Pat [indistinct 00:11:25]? Abraham Smith: They probably— Robert James Georgia: [indisctinct 00:11:31] do nothing really, just look at him. Gregory Hunter: Was afraid or he just said— Robert James Georgia: Some of them told like— Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:11:36] because they see him pass. [indistinct 00:11:40]. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Abraham Smith: Yes, sir. Yeah. Gregory Hunter: You can call him [indistinct 00:12:00]? Earlier maybe? Abraham Smith: No. I don't remember seeing any. [indistinct 00:12:05] by the main road. I didn't want to see him. [indistinct 00:12:13]. Gregory Hunter: Y'all remember much about your grandparents? In the days [indistinct 00:12:17]. The early, early days. Robert James Georgia: I remember my grandmother on my father side. And I can remember my grandpa, but I was so small. I can remember granddaddy on my mother's side. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Robert James Georgia: They used to farm [indistinct 00:12:36]. Used to go up there and fish. [indistinct 00:12:42]. I ain't never [indistinct 00:12:43]. But he used to give us a nickel [indistinct 00:12:43]. Gregory Hunter: Yeah? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. I was [indistinct 00:12:43]. Gregory Hunter: Where did he live? Robert James Georgia: He lived at [indistinct 00:13:05] not far from him. [indistinct 00:13:07]. He live on this side of the road and they live on that side of the road. You see, my grandfather and his father are brothers. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. Robert James Georgia: Uh-huh. Gregory Hunter: Yeah. You remember your grandfather [indistinct 00:13:23]? Abraham Smith: I can barely remember my granddaddy on my daddy side. But my granddaddy on my mother's side, I can remember him. And he lived out [indistinct 00:13:43]. And he was a farmer. I can remember when he was fighting os hard to get radish [indistinctwhat 00:13:50] he can afford. And he finally got radish to grow. He used to come out there. He was [indistinct 00:13:53]. Gregory Hunter: What's that? Abraham Smith: He used to ride a mule and [indistinct 00:13:53]. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Abraham Smith: Put a [indistinct 00:13:53]. He had a big farm. Gregory Hunter: And when did he register [indistinct 00:13:53]? Do you remember? Abraham Smith: That's [indistinct 00:13:53]. What color it was? Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:13:54] back in the fifties. Back in '50. Abraham Smith: It seem like [indistinct 00:13:54] stay in school and I got ready to see him [indistinct 00:14:02]. Then he had to go up there and read the [indistinct 00:14:41] Constitution for you [indistinct 00:14:41]. Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:14:41]. Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:14:41]. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. You had to read a part of the Constitution. Gregory Hunter: Who would you read it in front of? Robert James Georgia: Folks that was in there doing the registering. I can't remember who it was. White folk, and not Black. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Robert James Georgia: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I always remember what I read that day. Gregory Hunter: What? What was that? Robert James Georgia: "No person will be jailed for debt, except in case of fraud." That's what they had me to read. "No person will be jailed for debt, except in case of fraud." Abraham Smith: Was that right? Robert James Georgia: Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: Do you remember when you registered? Abraham Smith: Yeah, but I didn't have to read anything. Gregory Hunter: No? Abraham Smith: They asked me questions on [indistinct 00:15:37]. Gregory Hunter: What kind of questions? Abraham Smith: Where you was born and all. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. Abraham Smith: Whether you were Black or White. Gregory Hunter: They asked you whether you were Black or White? Abraham Smith: Yeah. [indistinct 00:15:47] Black and White. Gregory Hunter: Did any Black people who ever try to run for a local government or try to become police officers or anything back before the sixties? Abraham Smith: Yeah. It was a police back then. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Abraham Smith: David Lawson, yeah. Robert James Georgia: Dave Stoops, I believe. Gregory Hunter: David Lawson? Abraham Smith: Yeah. He was Police. Gregory Hunter: And who else? Robert James Georgia: And then [indistinct 00:16:16] Stoops. That's all I know. I think he got another name. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: And how was that? Robert James Georgia: And then they couldn't lock up the White people. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah? Robert James Georgia: The Blacks. Abraham Smith: That's right. Robert James Georgia: That's all they locked up, Black people. Gregory Hunter: Did the Black people like that? Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: And they liked David Lawson. Abraham Smith: They liked [indistinct 00:16:42]. Gregory Hunter: They were both from Summerton? Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. But these ones live out here, they call it River Road. These dudes all live out here. Like on the [indistinct 00:17:00] out there. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:17:20] was he a police out here? Robert James Georgia: Yeah, I ain't hear. I remember him being [indistinct 00:17:29]. Gregory Hunter: What'd you say? Robert James Georgia: No, he was just asking me about [indistinct 00:17:33] police out there. I don't remember him being on here, but he might've been a helper one time. Gregory Hunter: What does that mean? Robert James Georgia: He just helping my [indistinct 00:17:45]. Abraham Smith: He was the type of person you could rough up your own color. You know, [indistinct 00:17:48] each other. [indistinct 00:17:49]. Yeah, Mexican Police. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Y'all went to church every Sunday? Robert James Georgia: Not every Sunday. Go pretty good sometimes. I really didn't start going to church regular about maybe 10, 12 years ago really. Gregory Hunter: Is that right? Robert James Georgia: Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: Was church a big—I mean was church something really important? Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:18:16]. Gregory Hunter: Was church something that was real important? Robert James Georgia: Yes. Yes, it all is important. Gregory Hunter: Which church did y'all go to? Y'all went to the same church? Robert James Georgia: Well, I used to go to the same church. But now, I go right up here to [indistinct 00:18:28] church. Gregory Hunter: What church y'all used to go? Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:18:28]. Gregory Hunter: Oh, okay. [indistinct 00:18:37] most of the people from town went to that one? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. And [indistinct 00:18:41]. Gregory Hunter: Oh. Speaker 1: Hello. Gregory Hunter: How you doing? Abraham Smith: Hey. Speaker 1: How you doing? Abraham Smith: All right. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Speaker 1: Key? Gregory Hunter: [indistinct 00:18:49]. Abraham Smith: Back when we were small, we had to go to church. Robert James Georgia: That's right. Abraham Smith: We had to go. Robert James Georgia: Yes, sir. Make you go. Abraham Smith: Yeah. You know anything about the old days? Speaker 1: [indistinct 00:19:03]. Abraham Smith: Oh yes? Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess you talk about [indistinct 00:19:03]. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Did y'all travel much early on? Robert James Georgia: Travel? Gregory Hunter: Yeah. Like some of these people out there. I know you did, because you [indistinct 00:19:03]. What happened before that, you ever left [indistinct 00:19:04]? Abraham Smith: No. I left. I be with my mom and daddy. Like you go to [indistinct 00:19:04] in Columbia. Gregory Hunter: What'd you go to Columbia for? Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:19:04]. I knew I drove him over there to go to the doctor [indistinct 00:19:04]. Gregory Hunter: How about you [indistinct 00:19:19]? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Well, I was grown. [indistinct 00:19:59], but I'm grown now. Doesn't matter since. I've never been up [indistinct 00:20:10]. Gregory Hunter: What'd you think about Baltimore when you [indistinct 00:20:13] back there. Abraham Smith: When I first moved to Baltimore, I was amazed where people live, you know? Robert James Georgia: Me too. Abraham Smith: All the brick buildings, they was joined together. And I didn't think I was at the house. [indistinct 00:20:28]. I was amazed where—It was amazing. Robert James Georgia: Then you go to the back streets, people living back there. [indistinct 00:20:39]. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. I know the back. I call it back. That it is— Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:20:49]. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Lord have mercy. [indistinct 00:20:55] them boys been living there. They ain't balling. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. Gregory Hunter: What are some of the things that y'all missed about the earlier days? Robert James Georgia: The early days? Gregory Hunter: Mm-hmm. As far back as, you know, when you were younger. Can you think of anything? Or maybe back when the time things changed. Same thing. Since the thirties and the forties. Robert James Georgia: It changed drastically. Gregory Hunter: How so? Explain. Robert James Georgia: It's just different. I mean, back in our time, if you wanted something like a small thing as a milkshake, you couldn't get it. Gregory Hunter: Couldn't get it from where? Robert James Georgia: Wasn't nowhere to get it from. They used to sell it in the drugstore, but they wouldn't sell it for Colored children then. Gregory Hunter: Couldn't even go in and buy a milkshake? Robert James Georgia: No. Abraham Smith: And Coca Cola. You couldn't buy Coca Cola. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: You talking about the Coke soda? Abraham Smith: Yeah, you couldn't buy a Coke. White people drink Coke. Gregory Hunter: No matter where you were, you couldn't get a Coke? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:22:11]. Robert James Georgia: Like these trips out here, they be going out for food still. They have a little room on the back big enough for like five people to get in. They had to go back there to order what you want. Bus station stand would have, sandwich. Now you can go anywhere and get what you want. Gregory Hunter: How did those kind of things, you know, those signs of segregation, unequal facilities, how did they make that feel? Abraham Smith: During that time, like the bus stations, Blacks sit on this side and the Whites sit in the rest of that side. [indistinct 00:22:57]. And they had a phone in there when it ring. And during back that time, when we were young, [indistinct 00:23:10] we thought that's how it's supposed to be. Robert James Georgia: Right. Abraham Smith: Then, we thought that's the way it's supposed to be. Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Abraham Smith: And then [indistinct 00:23:19] called her, it's like you would go into [indistinct 00:23:24] you could go around to the back, the back, you could do it all the time. And even order it from the front, like you go to go to the [indistinct 00:23:31] and pay like they way you pay for gas. It's the door right here when you go in [indistinct 00:23:37]. You can go in from that door. [indistinct 00:23:40] stop right at the door and order right here. Never go in and tell them what you want. You can't go in the store. Robert James Georgia: That's right. Gregory Hunter: Any Black folks who ever try to do something they wasn't supposed to do like try to go into a White restaurant and go in and try to sit down and eat? Or go try to sit down in the White part of the bus station or— Robert James Georgia: Back in the early days there wasn't the chair. Back in the sixties [indistinct 00:24:07], some of them tried. Gregory Hunter: But not in the earlier parts. Robert James Georgia: Not in the early days. Movies, say, had that movie over there, the Whites sit downstairs, Blacks sit up in the balcony. Abraham Smith: They had chairs downstairs for the White that weren't hard. Robert James Georgia: Cushioned chairs. Abraham Smith: Cushioned chairs for the White. They had a little bench upstairs like it was like a baseball game [indistinct 00:24:37]. Gregory Hunter: Did you have to pay the same amount to get in? Abraham Smith: Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't know but I reckon. Robert James Georgia: Yes, sir. Gregory Hunter: What do you think is those kinds when you say there's more freedom to that. You can do whatever you want to do. Go where you want to go. What other things have changed? Abraham Smith: Right now, you can just go where you want to go. But they really don't care too much about— Robert James Georgia: They don't care [indistinct 00:25:24]. Abraham Smith: Eat in those places. Like some of the diners down there, they don't care too much whether you come in or not. Go in the diner. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Abraham Smith: They let Black people come in. They can't just run them out. Gregory Hunter: Did a lot of Black people go in there? Robert James Georgia: I see them going there. I never been in there. I been in there one time I think. Mm-hmm. But some different people running them that's what's running it now. I see them people traveling stop by there, ain't no Black people. Not many people out of town go there, not Black. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like the motels, Black people couldn't even go into the motel. Gregory Hunter: [indistinct 00:26:10] Blacks in the motel. Robert James Georgia: No, they couldn't go in the motel. Gregory Hunter: Say for instance somebody came to visit town. Remember when you said that all the [indistinct 00:26:20] and things like that were coming in. Where did all those people stay? Robert James Georgia: I imagine they had houses. Black people had boarding houses around here. And they didn't have any to stay if they had to stay overnight. If they were Black, the couldn't go in them motels. Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:26:28] motels. Robert James Georgia: Yup. A lot of people, Black people used to have a place to stay, they call it boarding houses. [indistinct 00:26:28] place like that. Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: Do you remember any of the lawyers from the NAACP who came here during the sixties? Robert James Georgia: Thurgood, here. Of course, the name of him, I can't remember the name. Gregory Hunter: Thurgood Marshall was there? Robert James Georgia: Yeah, he was here. Gregory Hunter: Who did he stay with? Robert James Georgia: That I don't know. But he [indistinct 00:27:14]. I don't know where he stayed. Gregory Hunter: But how long was he here? Robert James Georgia: I know he was there one night and I don't know whether he went back the same night or what happened. I was young and that didn't make too much difference to me, really. Gregory Hunter: Yeah. Just remember it. Robert James Georgia: Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: Were there White lawyers? Robert James Georgia: Seem like it has been White lawyers coming down there. Seem like it was. Mm-hmm. Gregory Hunter: How long—you said your father was in the NAACP. How long was the NAACP in Summerton [indistinct 00:27:45]? Robert James Georgia: A long time. We just [indistinct 00:27:45]. In the fifties I think when this [indistinct 00:27:45]. And when we start paying attention to it, you know? Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Were there any other organizations like the [indistinct 00:28:14]? Robert James Georgia: No. Not that I know of. Gregory Hunter: [indistinct 00:28:24] all the churches have [indistinct 00:28:24]? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. All the churches. Mm-hmm. I say all the churches [indistinct 00:28:33]. They all knew. Mm-hmm. There's a lotta people right now. Lotta Black people right now that [indistinct 00:28:34]. Gregory Hunter: In [indistinct 00:28:34]? Abraham Smith: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Oh yeah, [indistinct 00:28:34]. How come? Robert James Georgia: I don't know. The [indistinct 00:28:34] I call it. Abraham Smith: Yeah. And then a lot of them, they would let these White people get to him and encourage him not to be a member of— Robert James Georgia: Right. Some of them scared to do it [indistinct 00:29:10]. Abraham Smith: [indistinct 00:29:13]. Yes, indeed. Gregory Hunter: What do y'all see the future of Summerton now? Where do you see Summerton going in the next [indistinct 00:29:25] 20th Century, what's going to happen in Summerton? Things are going to stay the same or you think something's going happen or— Robert James Georgia: I'd say too, it's been going down over there. Abraham Smith: It's been going down. Robert James Georgia: Because they had so many years now. I mean the last 15, 20 years it's been going down. Gregory Hunter: Going down how? A lotta jobs are being lost? Robert James Georgia: Jobs are lost. In some respect, it'd pick up some. In some respect, it's going the other way it look like. [indistinct 00:29:57] a few jobs here. One or two. Like the plants where they go here. One time ain't nothing around here. Yeah. [indistinct 00:30:07]. Like down the road. Gregory Hunter: They're building a new school? Robert James Georgia: Yeah. Mm-hmm. But I hope it'll pick up. It's still looking dark. I can say that much. Mm-hmm. And me myself, you know I ain't going be [indistinct 00:30:30]. So, I hope my son, my son [indistinct 00:30:38]. Gregory Hunter: You son got quite a few more years ain't he? It look like he got quite a few more years. Robert James Georgia: Well, I hope he'll be around a few more years. I mean a lot has been good [indistinct 00:30:57]. So, whenever. Yes, indeed. Abraham Smith: For some reason it look like it's really not picking up. Right now, [indistinct 00:31:04] house for sale. When a Black person buy a house, White people on this side, Black people on the other side, they going move. They going move on the lake. Now, the lake is where wasn't but a few people on the lake. Now the lakeside is larger than [indistinct 00:31:40]. Go to the lake now, it's [indistinct 00:31:40]. Without a doubt. Robert James Georgia: Yeah, it is. Abraham Smith: So right now, a Black person can buy a house mostly anything from [indistinct 00:31:40] but that'll make White people move. Gregory Hunter: Uh-huh. Abraham Smith: They'll move right out. Gregory Hunter: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: And on the lake, they got [indistinct 00:31:48] so hard, they know ain't no Black person going buy. They know ain't no Black person going to buy them, so they ain't worried about no Blacks coming out and living. Gregory Hunter: Yeah. Robert James Georgia: And I think a lot sell, some of them sell for over $100,000. They cost a lot. Gregory Hunter: No house [indistinct 00:32:07]. Robert James Georgia: Right. Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. Gregory Hunter: How much land sell for [indistinct 00:32:13]? Robert James Georgia: [indistinct 00:32:16]. It wasn't too much land being sold around Summerton. But I mean back a few years ago, you could've bought land for like 8500 [indistinct 00:32:27]. Yeah, a few years ago. Mm-hmm. Abraham Smith: Yeah. Gregory Hunter: Okay.