- We had a very adversary relationship with JTF, from the beginning. First of all, as I said, they didn't accept our legitimacy. They thought that we were extensions of our clients. And on one occasion, I nearly came to blows with a Lieutenant commander because a client hadn't been brought when he was supposed to be brought out, the wrong client was brought at another time, they made life miserable for the detainees who had lawyers requiring them to spend two or three days in isolation before and afterward. And we were regarded as the enemy and they did everything they could to make life hard for us. And at one point, I picked up the phone and I shouted at the Lieutenant Commander. I said, one of my clients is missing and he said, he's not missing. We know where he is. And that the wrong client was brought in on and on, and then he came over and chewed me out for being disrespectful for his guards. And then I denied it and we really had a face-off. We nearly came to blows, at another point Clive Smith was pistol whipped by guards and threatened with arrest, pistol whip, maybe a little strong. You'd have to ask him again. My understanding was that a pistol was involved. The Lieutenant commander that I almost came to blows with got back at me by opening my legal mail. And then the claim was that the legal mail was simply jostled in being carried from one place to another. And it really was antagonistic.