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<v ->We had a very adversary relationship with JTF,</v>

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from the beginning.

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First of all, as I said, they didn't accept our legitimacy.

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They thought that we were extensions of our clients.

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And on one occasion, I nearly came to blows

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with a Lieutenant commander because a client hadn't been

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brought when he was supposed to be brought out,

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the wrong client was brought at another time,

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they made life miserable for the detainees who had lawyers

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requiring them to spend two or three days in isolation

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before and afterward.

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And we were regarded as the enemy and they did

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everything they could to make life hard for us.

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And at one point,

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I picked up the phone and I shouted at the Lieutenant

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Commander. I said, one of my clients is missing

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and he said, he's not missing. We know where he is.

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And that the wrong client was brought in on and on,

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and then he came over

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and chewed me out for being disrespectful for his guards.

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And then I denied it and we really had a face-off.

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We nearly came to blows, at another point

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Clive Smith was pistol whipped by guards and threatened

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with arrest, pistol whip, maybe a little strong.

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You'd have to ask him again.

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My understanding was that a pistol was involved.

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The Lieutenant commander that I almost came to blows with

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got back at me by opening my legal mail.

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And then the claim was

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that the legal mail was simply jostled

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in being carried from one place to another.

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And it really was antagonistic.