- There was another guy in front of me. He was hanging in front of me, and he couldn't survive. He died. He, after he died, they let him just hang over there. And, he was death for, he was death for long time. The first day they hang me on chain, I could see him that he was moving and people going to him to talk to him or to try to talk to him. But the, the other days, I know I saw him moving again. Nobody went to him to take him down or to talk to him. He was just hanging 24 hours with no, with no any breaks. And this man was death, of course. I, I could see it on his body. Was, his his face. Everything was just, he was a death man. 

Interviewer: Do you know who he was? 

- I don't know. I don't know if I saw him before in that camp. If I talked to him before what his face was changed because I think he was got beaten up very badly before. And, I couldn't, I couldn't recognize his face. 

Interviewer: And where were you? 

- And his head was hanging like that. So, I couldn't see his face clearly. So, I couldn't know if I know him or not. I don't know. 

Interviewer: What were you thinking about yourself when you saw that? 

- It was for me, of course, it was, I was sure I could be the next one. And because it's in place with no with no rules, and the only rules is that they can make everything what they want to.