Charles Pollard: Pollard. Barbara Reed, my sister. Stacey Scales: Mm-hmm. She [indistinct 00:00:10]? Charles Pollard: Yeah, this is Amber Pollard. That's my mother. Tywanna Whorley: 1879, 1910. Charles Pollard: Yeah. My brother died in '21. Tywanna Whorley: Well, he has his picture on here. Charles Pollard: Yeah, that's his picture. They put it on there. They had it somewhere, and they had it stomped in there. Stacey Scales: Is that right? Tywanna Whorley: Lucius Pollard. Charles Pollard: Yeah. Stacey Scales: He has the picture of the house. Charles Pollard: Yeah, and this was his first wife, my mother. Willa Mae was his second. She died in '43. My daddy died in '57. Charles Pollard: And, oh, Willa, and this is Atlanta Pollard, here, Atlanta Pollard. That's Mae. Didn't you say [indistinct 00:01:16] was going to to put something? Tywanna Whorley: Yes, sir. Atlantia Daniel? Charles Pollard: Yeah. Tywanna Whorley: August 19, 1914 to February 15, 1994. Charles Pollard: Yeah. '94, she died. Yes, died this year. Tywanna Whorley: [indistinct 00:01:29]. Charles Pollard: And here's Holiday. This is Holiday, and this my brother; got killed in 1954. He was 42 when he died. He was a bad boy, did everything possible; shot folks, he got shot, cut them up, and this is Emma Vee here, next to Holiday. That's his wife, that's my sister. That was [indistinct 00:02:09] Tim Pollard and them over there, and my first wife—My second wife is right there on the—With a flower, turned back. That's our beauty parlor, and this on this side was my first, Raffine, the one down there to the house. That's her mother right there on this side. See that? Stacey Scales: Who was this Thornton? Lucy Thornton? Charles Pollard: Well, that's the old foundation. Stacey Scales: Yeah, I see 1841. Charles Pollard: Yeah, back in there. Yeah, that was some of my foreparents. Stacey Scales: Oh, really? Charles Pollard: Yeah. Yeah, [indistinct 00:02:49]— Stacey Scales: Hold on, was that your grandmother, Lucy Thornton? Charles Pollard: Well, I think that's—Yeah. Stacey Scales: You said your grandmother owned land and a house. Charles Pollard: Yeah. It's 20 acres, yeah. Yeah. Tywanna Whorley: Leon Cooper, is that who? Charles Pollard: No, that was some of the Coopers, but this one he was talking about over here, it's [indistinct 00:03:20] down through there. That was Maddie Pollard. That was hers along on this side, and she bought that, and he died, but she just died, yeah, this year or last year, at 72. Stacey Scales: Who's Margaret Pollard? Charles Pollard: Margaret? Stacey Scales: Margaret. I see over there a Margaret Pollard. Charles Pollard: Well, that's one of my peoples, too. Buried way back when. Stacey Scales: Yeah. Charles Pollard: Yeah. Charles Pollard: Crazy. Grass everywhere. Stacey Scales: Oh, yeah. Charles Pollard: When it dies down, they burn it off, kind of. Tywanna Whorley: Got a lot of Pankards? Charles Pollard: Yeah, there's a lot of them. Johnny Pankard, he's still right there down the hill. They bought two acres from my dad. Yeah, and I had all of this up here. I sold it. I cut a lot of timber off it, last year. Charles Pollard: Well— Charles Pollard: I'm just trying to figure out—Way over yonder. Stacey Scales: Oh, I see it. Is that the VA? Charles Pollard: No, that couldn't be the VA. Stacey Scales: VA [indistinct 00:04:57]. Charles Pollard: Yeah. Stacey Scales: That has to be a water [indistinct 00:05:01] water. Charles Pollard: Water over up there. Yeah. Water up the freeway, yeah. Stacey Scales: [indistinct 00:05:08] water. Charles Pollard: Yeah. Stacey Scales: City water. Stacey Scales: Yeah. Charles Pollard: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's [indistinct 00:05:16], I reckon. Stacey Scales: So these were some of the earliest sites, right here? Charles Pollard: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, some of are buried up in the 1700s. But my own grandmother on my daddy's side, she was born in late 1799. Of course, she died. She died, and I was big enough to [indistinct 00:05:53]. Yeah, I was big enough to [indistinct 00:05:58]. Yeah. What you got in the bottle? Water? Stacey Scales: Yeah, sorry, you want some? Charles Pollard: I don't reckon, son. Yeah, that's our family there, and these are the Tuckers over here. Charles Pollard: Yeah. They keep passing on, and the world keeps passing by. It goes and comes. Tywanna Whorley: So the remainder of your family will be buried here? Charles Pollard: Yeah. Tywanna Whorley: They will? Charles Pollard: Yeah. At least the one in Chicago—in Cincinnati. She said she told her children, she got two fat children, they in Chicago. But she got down and had to go up there and stay with them, just buried up there. Well, she died in Cincinnati, bring her back down here and buried her. That's what she done told us all and the children. Charles Pollard: Oh. [indistinct 00:07:11] down there. Charles Pollard: Yeah, you better let me catch you [indistinct 00:07:20]. There you go. That's right. Yeah. Stacey Scales: So you gave her the [indistinct 00:07:37]? Charles Pollard: Yeah, I told her she could have it. Stacey Scales: And she said she's going to bring you $40? Charles Pollard: $40, but I ain't seen her no more. [indistinct 00:07:47] for some of them to tell something, and get away, and that's all. I've loaned people sometimes, I let them have it; I know I ain't going to get it back. [indistinct 00:08:03] I've been [indistinct 00:08:03] to the side 20 years. Stacey Scales: Did you ever have to lend money to White folks back in the '50s and '40s? Charles Pollard: No, I never did fool with loaning White folks no money. Stacey Scales: I guess it's about dinnertime. Charles Pollard: [indistinct 00:08:25] big steak now [indistinct 00:08:26]. Really never did fool with steaks much. My uncle used to sell that. My uncle used to have a beef [indistinct 00:08:34]. Stacey Scales: Oh, yeah? What was the name of it? Charles Pollard: [indistinct 00:08:41]. Stacey Scales: The name of the bar? Charles Pollard: Willa Pollard's Market. Stacey Scales: Willa Pollard's Market? Charles Pollard: Yeah, she had a big market. Stacey Scales: Okay. Charles Pollard: That's why some, we sold them peoples that lot. Our land started right there, our home house, and this over here, got 160 acre block, half a mile squared. Half a mile square. This gas line, every time, six crosses cross I think. Five or six, but every time we went across here— Stacey Scales: I smell it. Charles Pollard: —I smelled it's leaking somewhere, a little bit. They gave us $1,300. Sam Cardy, I reckon he's there by his self now, his wife gone on. Yep. Stacey Scales: [indistinct 00:09:42] you [indistinct 00:09:43]? Charles Pollard: We used to pay him [indistinct 00:09:43]. Stacey Scales: You got Dixie Electricity on your property, too. Charles Pollard: Yeah, I sold them that acre. They gave me $100 for a Christmas present. Stacey Scales: How long ago was that? Charles Pollard: '45. That's when we got electricity. We didn't—farmers got electricity. Stacey Scales: How much was the land worth then? Charles Pollard: Oh, different prices, you know. I'd give away some. At least, I knew, I wasn't trying to make money off of. I was just getting 'em places. That [indistinct 00:10:17] first house we got, I was talking about it. I sold them that half acre for $500, I think. And the one [indistinct 00:10:25], I think I got $1,000 out of him for his acre. And that dark building going in there, and that person's car standing near the dark building near the house, they got an acre and a half, and I got $1500 out of them. All of the others, I sold it for $300 or $400, whatever they could pay. Stacey Scales: That was in the '40s, huh? Mostly? Charles Pollard: Oh, that [indistinct 00:10:50]. See, I bought it in 1965. Stacey Scales: Oh, okay. Charles Pollard: Yeah. They've been [indistinct 00:10:56] about 30 years [indistinct 00:10:58]. Stacey Scales: Well, we want to thank you for our tour. Charles Pollard: Oh, yeah. Stacey Scales: Thanks a lot. Charles Pollard: I like to be going and talking. That's all I'm fit for now. Yeah. They're out and gone, ain't they? Stacey Scales: I don't know. Charles Pollard: Yeah, I don't see the car. You've seen the car they was driving, didn't you? One of them Lexus. $50,000 car. Stacey Scales: Shoo. Charles Pollard: They stay in Cincinatti. That's the onliest daughter. Stacey Scales: Okay—