Speaker 1: Were you at in isolation? 

- Yes. 

Speaker 1: Why? 

- I stood in the Camp Echo, for two weeks. And this camp only like this room, bigger than this one. You have a cell in it, so that you are alone. You understand? I saw it for the, you know, you don't have anyone, you don't see anyone, nothing. Only the soldiers when they came to give food, or the interrogation, that's all. Nobody. You should try it. And then one day they say they take me to the airplane. They do some plastic on my hand, the same day, they take me to the airplane. I see the Soviet delegation from Belgium, the Belgium delegation, and they take me to the airplane. 

Speaker 1: Did you believe you were going home? 

- Not yet. Like some brother said, I am inside my house and I closed the door. If I don't close the door, I don't believe I'm free. But I still feel not free. 

Speaker 1: Why? 

- I still feel because long time we still there, still people out there.