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behavioral science control team.

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And so I forget exactly when they came on the scene

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but it was probably March, April,

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something like that, of 2002

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and behavioral science control team

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came to see me based on the fact

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that they were medical professionals

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and they knew I was the JTF surgeon

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and they wanted access to the detainee

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and to work with the medical staff

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with the detainee population.

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And so we had a discussion about what their purpose was.

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And so it was my decision,

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as soon as I understood what their purpose was,

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in which they decided, once they told me was

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that they were there to assist the interrogators

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with the interrogation process.

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And I said, in my view, you can't be both a caregiver

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and be assisting the interrogators.

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So I partitioned them very specifically away

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from the caregiving of the detainee population.

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And in fact, our discussions became very limited

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because I had no bearing in which,

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no situation in which I could foresee them

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being credentialed by me to give care.

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And I was the credentialing authority

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for all the physicians in the JTF.

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And so there were psychologists

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and psychiatrists who were advising the interrogators

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on interrogation techniques

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but it was not, they were not part of my medical team.