WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.259 --> 00:00:04.400 Because I was the only interpreter for Oigers, 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:06.600 the only translator for Oigers, 3 00:00:06.600 --> 00:00:11.600 so I have the whole story, like what the detainees said 4 00:00:11.600 --> 00:00:12.923 and what happened next. 5 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:15.950 One thing that really bothered me was 6 00:00:18.860 --> 00:00:22.297 they were only looking for certain words 7 00:00:22.297 --> 00:00:24.880 during the interrogation. 8 00:00:24.880 --> 00:00:29.460 And then they will take the detainees words out of context 9 00:00:30.540 --> 00:00:35.540 and put together different versions of the interrogation. 10 00:00:36.990 --> 00:00:40.190 Your interrogator just sits there and they say nothing 11 00:00:40.190 --> 00:00:43.820 and then when he hears "Arab," when he hears "Taliban," 12 00:00:43.820 --> 00:00:46.150 he just jumps in and say, "Oh, was there Arabs?" 13 00:00:46.150 --> 00:00:48.110 And then he just quickly writes something down 14 00:00:48.110 --> 00:00:50.530 without know what the question was at the beginning 15 00:00:50.530 --> 00:00:52.180 and what was the end. 16 00:00:52.180 --> 00:00:53.983 And it's not accurate here. 17 00:00:54.910 --> 00:00:58.140 And then the next interrogator comes in with this record, 18 00:00:58.140 --> 00:01:02.760 they will ask questions like, "oh, you were up on Otura Bura 19 00:01:02.760 --> 00:01:05.810 with Arabs and talked to this Arab. 20 00:01:05.810 --> 00:01:07.640 What did he say to you?" 21 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.310 And the detainee will say, "no, I was not there with Arabs. 22 00:01:11.310 --> 00:01:13.160 I never talked to any Arabs." 23 00:01:13.160 --> 00:01:14.607 And then he will look at me like, 24 00:01:14.607 --> 00:01:16.330 "you translate it," you know? 25 00:01:16.330 --> 00:01:18.856 Did you translate wrong? I didn't say this. 26 00:01:18.856 --> 00:01:21.787 And then I will tell the interrogator, 27 00:01:21.787 --> 00:01:24.320 "Where did you get this because I was translating 28 00:01:24.320 --> 00:01:27.300 and he never said something like this." 29 00:01:27.300 --> 00:01:28.820 And then he will say, "here, this is what 30 00:01:28.820 --> 00:01:30.070 the interrogator record says. 31 00:01:30.070 --> 00:01:32.367 This is what the other interrogator wrote." 32 00:01:33.210 --> 00:01:35.273 When this kind of thing kept happening, 33 00:01:36.320 --> 00:01:37.910 what really bothered me was one time 34 00:01:37.910 --> 00:01:40.560 when FBI agents slept through the interrogation. 35 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.430 For 2 and a half hours he slept. 36 00:01:42.430 --> 00:01:44.500 When we were going over the interrogation 37 00:01:44.500 --> 00:01:47.996 he said that he did scuba diving all night 38 00:01:47.996 --> 00:01:49.800 and he was really tired. 39 00:01:49.800 --> 00:01:50.633 And when we got there, 40 00:01:50.633 --> 00:01:54.650 we were in with 2 DOD interrogators and 1 FBI agent, 41 00:01:54.650 --> 00:01:57.760 and then the DOD interrogator was asking questions, 42 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:02.100 and then I heard sort of, not snoring but heavy breathing. 43 00:02:02.100 --> 00:02:05.410 And I looked and he's sleeping there on the chair. 44 00:02:05.410 --> 00:02:08.287 And I looked at the DOD interrogator and am like, 45 00:02:08.287 --> 00:02:10.185 "he's sleeping." And he says, 46 00:02:10.185 --> 00:02:12.145 "leave him alone, let him sleep." 47 00:02:12.145 --> 00:02:13.430 Because they didn't want him to asks questions or interrupt 48 00:02:13.430 --> 00:02:16.100 so he just went on with his questions. 49 00:02:16.100 --> 00:02:17.857 But I kept thinking, 50 00:02:17.857 --> 00:02:21.580 "okay, so we are here for 2 and a half hours, 51 00:02:21.580 --> 00:02:24.050 he slept for 2 hours. 52 00:02:24.050 --> 00:02:26.250 What is he going to write in his report 53 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:27.953 from this interrogation? 54 00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:30.617 Because he didn't hear anything."