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(laughs)

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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It's really ridiculous for me in the presence of these pros

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to try to say anything about

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the moral quandaries of college students.

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The only thing appropriate

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that I can think of is my two Vermont stories,

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both of which might be relevant to the situation.

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One of the Vermont farmer

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who was with a companion at a rally,

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political rally at which a very slick politician

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from the big city came up to harangue the Vermont farmers,

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and both of the Vermont farmers listened very carefully

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to what was going on.

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And then after a while, one of them who was deaf turned

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to the other and said, "I can't hear him very well.

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What's he talking about?"

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The other one turned and said, "He don't seem to say."

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(audience laughing)

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This is your situation listening to me, I'm afraid.

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The other one is of the Vermont farmer of the city slicker,

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who arrived in the Vermont community

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and made the very best he could of the situation

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of initial contact and conversation

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and we got nowhere and the very loconic replies

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were made from all sides to every overture he made

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when making conversation.

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And he finally got a little fed up and exploded and said,

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"What's the matter with you with people?

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Don't you clintate, don't you ever talk,

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don't you ever say anything up here?

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And the reply was up here we don't say anything unless

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we can improve on silence.

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(audience laughing)

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It would be appropriate for me only to be silent

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in the presence of you who are seasoned veterans in dealing

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with the problems of...

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the moral problems of college students.

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This trains compound of winsomeness and orneriness,

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such attractive and aggravating citizens

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of daily reviewers who come into our office

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and we talk with on the campus and counsel.

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But there's no way to study

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the moral complex of the college students

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in a way I'm sure that an IBM machine can catch.

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So the social statistician boys over there,

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all is trying to describe with great accuracy

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to the college student.

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Statistics are generally useless in describing his soul.

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With the finest amount of precision

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to get him down onto a punch card

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with the holes in the right place still hold will miss

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the essence of the matter of what's wrong with it.

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What I want to try to do today in a very quick way,

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in an impressionistic fashion

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is Jamaican analysis in depth.

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The college student, I see him around.

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And, again, I must say I apologize for my role here

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because what I have to say has the smell of books about it,

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much too much and a kind of Gothic immunity

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from the hard realities of the students if you know him.

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But I want to try to make

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a kind of psychoanalytic impressionistic picture of him,

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the college students using Augustinian categories

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of thought coming at the whole matter

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of the character structure of the college student

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with unashamedly Augustinian presupposition.

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That is to say, speaking from the Augustinians side,

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a man does as he is and he is as he loves

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his moral behavior is a reflection of his centers of value.

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What he prizes, whatever is God's,

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but most of the behavior of the college student,

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whether it's good or bad.

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And, of course, it's a mixture of both

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is a reflection of his real theology.

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It's never a much sense, I suppose,

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to try to picture the college student

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as being some of the moral and some of them immoral,

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the good boys and the bad boys or the good guys

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and the bad guys on campus

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nor really doesn't make much sense

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to describe him within himself in terms of the good side

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and the bad side.

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Because even what he seems to do is bad

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is his allegiance, his affiliations,

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and what he takes to be good

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and never consciously do what they feel to be bad, I think.

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They do the ostensible good.

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What appears to them to be good, his moral disorders.

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Then our teams objectively speaking right or wrong

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to find meaning in his existence

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to find points in his life.

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Today, and what I want to say very briefly,

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I want to try to stay entirely in the descriptive here

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to analyze without prescribing and perhaps on Thursday

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to try to say something prescriptively

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and normatively about what our responsibility

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is in confronting these issues.

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And it's important to keep

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our gears clear between descriptive and the normative vein.

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So easy to slip quickly over into quick prescription

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without fully diagnosing or answering the problems

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of analyzing the problems of our situation.

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Speaking then descriptively, the first thing to be said

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I suppose is that the college student

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is a crazy mixed up kid.

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His patterns of irresponsibility,

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which are playing up in the realm of sexual behavior

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are all reflections of his confusion of values

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and his search for meaning and search for belonging.

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We take him on the surface,

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his sexual behavior leaves a good deal to be desired

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if we measure him by any kind of puritan standard.

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It's certainly a great deal of promiscuity going on

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that disappearance of the puritan ethic.

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That the lack of any inner monitors are more controlled.

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The absence of a sense of obligation,

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so that most readily and most disturbingly

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in the widespread degree of social promiscuity,

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president branding produced quite a ruckus comment

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and thought in a very excellent article incidentally

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in yesterday's New York Times.

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No, Sunday's New York Times magazine section

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on this discusses the new moral anomie normalist man

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in the realm of sexual behavior

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is the students destruction of property

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whether it's Fort Lauderdale or other far places in Florida

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or in the new dormitory.

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It seems to be a function of the new affluence

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of the university.

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Now the university provides all the equipment it's around.

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We're used to having a block of stuffed things.

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So the college students seem

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to enjoy particularly ripping payphones out

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of telephone booth, breaking windows,

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smashing things up in general.

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The excessive drinking on campus

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is an index of moral confusion and uncertainty.

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And constantly despite my unpuritanical nature shocked by

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what I overhear on campus.

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Yesterday I saw two very respectful looking college...

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Respectable looking college students talking to each other

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and just unwittingly eavesdropped on the conversation

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and the exchange was simply on the one side.

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"Did you recognize him?"

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"No," said the other boy.

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"I was drunk."

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Cheating on examinations is a symptom again

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of a widespread difficulty on moral standards.

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These are fairly superficial symptoms

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of deeper moral difficulties,

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and they can't be remedied without

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I think looking deeper into their roots.

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What are the roots of the crazy mixed up moral confusion

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of college students whereby they seem to engage

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in blatant irresponsibility.

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But one thing, this is a reflection

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of the morally anomic culture in which we live.

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The loss of a moral consensus,

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the commonly acknowledged frame of meaning

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and value of moral sense.

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The Christian Conscience,

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which passed into the Puritan Conscience,

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which passed in turn and perhaps in a truncated form

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into the Yankee Conscience.

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How about at least the sense of obedience

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to the unenforceable, the inner moral monitor.

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But this has been supplanted by the new character structure,

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favorite item of analysis by social scientists.

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The new character structure of the exterior man,

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appearances are everything.

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Packaging, how one is packaged

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is the most important thing about them.

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Situation is that of thin man in a flat universe

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who has no sense of accountability

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to anything beyond the self or the crowd,

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no transcendent reference of morality.

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What accountability he does have is to the gang,

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the crowd, just the immediate group,

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so that if the crowd is not looking

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or if the crowd approves a certain thing

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then he will cut corners across the lawns of honesty until

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he gets caught or unless he gets caught.

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The boy in the very eminent

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and respectable New England College

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who got gonorrhea got cured readily

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by medical attention of the school

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was asked by the dean to report home on the incident

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and what transpired and the response of his family

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was, "Next time be more careful."

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This indicates that his moral irresponsibility

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is a reflection of a lack of moral nurture

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from his own family background.

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Cultural moral anomie, a lack of moral consensus

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of what is right and wrong.

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The second thing to say, I think in general, underlying...

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A factor underlying these symptomatic patterns of behavior

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is that the college student is kind of a wish will rebel

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in search of a cause.

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His disillusioned from the progressive era

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of pauses and idealism no crusade will appeal

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to him nor will appeals made to him to be moral, to be good.

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Yeah, I think he does respond to positive goods and goals

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when they are sufficiently compelling.

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He's a rebel from old courses,

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but he's rebel searching for a new course.

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And it seems to me we've turned some kind of corner

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from the beat generation, the silent generation

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or the cautious generation into a positive affirmation,

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a reaffirmation of search for new loyalties

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that will command moral allegiance.

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I happened this year to be involved

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in a fascinating experience of sitting

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in on a Woodrow Wilson Committee,

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regional committee, talking to the top kids,

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the top students.

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And what struck me very forcibly among

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these select group was on the one hand

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their positive affirmation of commitment

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to religious values coupled

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with their almost complete disdain for the church.

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A strange combination, pro theology and the church

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as much here to reflect on how come?

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Why do students seem to be feeling

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for a positive affirmation of religious faith move beyond

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the popular skepticism same time react

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so violently against the churches,

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perhaps this is a failure of the churches

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to provide guidance on issues of moral significance.

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Perhaps this is tied up closely with the drop-off

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of students, of men who are going into the ministry.

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But on the positive side, on which I am a much impressed

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that the other college student is no starry-eyed idealist.

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He will go hard for certain causes

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when the moral issue is barely clear cut.

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When the right and wrong of the thing is,

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stands out vividly.

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The most impressive testimony to this

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is the support of the racial revolution that's taking place

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and all of the activity of students in freedom riding

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and sitting and the boycotts.

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This seems to be the great issue.

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North and South, students, Negro and white,

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any kind of militant ardor,

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a militant ardor which (indistinct) them,

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and you as there chaplains sometimes in the trouble.

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The militant crusading assumes that the segregation

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this is in pursuit of the devil

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and the integration it is by definition of God,

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the moderate is a hypocrite and this kind of rides roughshod

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over some of the finer moral sensibility

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of the mixed feature and of the administration.

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Some of us in this room can remember the situation

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and how differently it was in the '30s

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when we were in school in the late '30.

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The great burning issue was the pacifist remember?

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Pro and con intervention or non-intervention.

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I can remember vividly walking in a parade

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at Yale through the streets of new Haven

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with a whole bunch of Yale divinity students carrying

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a banner which said a battleship costs more

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than Yale University.

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(audience laughing)

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We thought of war.

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Perhaps this now has all seemed to disappear

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and the favor is now edit in

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a completely different direction towards racial integration.

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Among many college students,

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this is the meaningful focus of moral concern,

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the gray issue on which they're willing to give up much.

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Something of the same moral idealism appears

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in the initial enthusiasm for the peace corps,

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where there seem to be a clear call

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to an unambiguous good eliciting sacrifice and devotion.

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And you remember the tremendous wave

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that took place when the announcements were first made about

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the peace corps and fields made for personnel.

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This is the bay hit with somewhat...

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With second thoughts of realism,

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but there's still, I think among the few

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and this is the minority that I'm mentioning.

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It appears the kind of response of students

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to a moral idealistic course.

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Something somewhat less widespread is the student support

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for 'cause this like nuclear pacifism

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and ban the bomb among the liberal schools.

287
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Well, the issue has now become so much more ambiguous

288
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and much on one side and much on the other

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that on this question of confronting the bomb

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and the threat of nuclear war,

291
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here the record is not impressive.

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There's a widespread resignation and moral trooper.

293
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The war, the bomb, it's all very, very far off

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for the fraternity man.

295
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He's not inclined to want to do much about it,

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but I'm speaking here so far of saving remnant.

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The minority group who moved beyond

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the cautious and silent generation.

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Among the majority, among the run of the mill,

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among the lounge lizards and the supremely average guy,

301
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the next man you meet, the most striking thing seems

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to me is his passion for security, which is no doubt

303
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a reflection of his drive for reflection

304
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of his cosmic insecurity.

305
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He feels knowing at his soul.

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His future is very uncertain and hazardous.

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Much of his behavior, kind of a motor reflex action

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to find islands of belonging and acceptance

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and a sea of anonymity and uncertainty.

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To overcome (indistinct) hit cosmic homesickness,

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fraternity shenanigans, all the rituals,

312
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the rushing and fledging

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and who's in and who's out passion for belonging.

314
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All elaborate time wasted in hazing serves

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the plain need of the student to belong.

316
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It serves a good, what he takes to be the good,

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all the more necessary for his soul

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as the university enrolled 20,000 in its student body

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and it self becomes a number.

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It's imperative for any student or any person

321
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to find a circle wherever he has a name

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or he's accepted as unique as different

323
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though in fact in the circles to which he mostly belong,

324
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he's accepted in terms of being only one of the boys.

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The gang sets the terms of moral behavior.

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And if acceptance prescribes getting drunk

327
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or sexual conquests to be reported back

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to the fraternity house or smashing light bulbs

329
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then that becomes for him look good.

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The overwhelming good and whatever minor qualms

331
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of conscience you may have remembered

332
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from home or church are submerged or sacrificed

333
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at the altar of the warm feeling of security

334
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at being one of the boys.

335
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The drive for security is certainly seen

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in the rapidly changing moral patterns shift

337
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toward early marriages.

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A ratio of undergraduates who are married, upperclassmen

339
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who are married and now I have one more, underclassmen

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is longing for an island of purity

341
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in the larger ocean of the chopping waves of insecurity.

342
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Frankly, I don't know how to read

343
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the new political conservatism,

344
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which is mounting in strength on many campuses.

345
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The roles here are reversed since our day on campus

346
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even we have her back bar.

347
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As students, the political action boys,

348
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the vital movements where the radical,

349
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the socialist, the pro labor, the new deal democrats.

350
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Now the role are the kind of reversed.

351
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The aggressive spirit shows up in the young conservative.

352
00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:20.760
We even use the label of being the Paul Revere Club

353
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or something like that.

354
00:26:24.683 --> 00:26:27.120
It's somehow ironically if you reflect back

355
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at who Paul Revere was in the revolution.

356
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Now, the talk among the young conservative,

357
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the young political conservatives,

358
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young conservative is of the perils

359
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of statism and creeping socialism and the return...

360
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The necessity of return to risk and freedom

361
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and individual initiative.

362
00:26:57.730 --> 00:27:02.080
This talk is on the part of very well

363
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to do boys of very well healed parents

364
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.810
and their economic individualism

365
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is like that of the phrase of...

366
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:15.842
You remember how deacons,

367
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each one for himself and God for us all

368
00:27:21.260 --> 00:27:24.527
as the elephant said as he danced among the chicken.

369
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(audience laughing)

370
00:27:35.700 --> 00:27:40.700
This suggests perhaps that political conservatism

371
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is a function of economic affluence judging it morally

372
00:27:48.750 --> 00:27:53.750
and economic security looms very large

373
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in the constellation of goods in the soul of Joe Collins.

374
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We are here I submit and within...

375
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In the middle of a very profound shift

376
00:28:06.540 --> 00:28:09.150
in the view of what college is for

377
00:28:10.620 --> 00:28:14.560
the whole attitude of the student

378
00:28:14.560 --> 00:28:16.403
is to what he's here about.

379
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For in the 19th century, the small liberal arts college

380
00:28:25.190 --> 00:28:28.690
was there to equip one for a life of service

381
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in one of the profession, law, ministry, medicine.

382
00:28:39.110 --> 00:28:43.140
But now here are millions in college

383
00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:47.713
with the general attitude that the world owes them a living.

384
00:28:50.790 --> 00:28:55.790
Everybody goes to college and the college experience taken

385
00:28:56.550 --> 00:28:59.770
for granted is a kind of dress rehearsal

386
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for life in suburbia,

387
00:29:03.690 --> 00:29:05.840
whereby we're tasting ahead of time

388
00:29:05.840 --> 00:29:08.893
the fringe benefits they enjoy.

389
00:29:11.270 --> 00:29:15.814
The college degree, is a necessary ticket

390
00:29:15.814 --> 00:29:20.814
that kind of thing, but it takes a four year waiting period

391
00:29:21.980 --> 00:29:25.593
to go through to some kind of life of economic comfort.

392
00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:31.283
It's a dress rehearsal with pretty fancy dress.

393
00:29:34.090 --> 00:29:36.520
Really, the economic affluence

394
00:29:36.520 --> 00:29:39.393
of the American college students is alarming.

395
00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:43.320
We are too wealthy.

396
00:29:43.320 --> 00:29:45.383
We are too well off.

397
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.700
Tell it not in gap and perhaps I should not mention

398
00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:58.010
this in the circle of those who are responsible

399
00:29:58.010 --> 00:30:00.470
for public relations, but I've heard rumors about

400
00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:04.240
that there are a few Duke students

401
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:07.623
who have two cars on campus.

402
00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:11.530
One, a little sports run around

403
00:30:11.530 --> 00:30:13.960
and the other one, the big station Wagon

404
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.473
for the fraternity men view.

405
00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:22.560
Well, the student union is the shining symbol

406
00:30:23.070 --> 00:30:27.970
of this new affluence and attendance

407
00:30:27.970 --> 00:30:30.130
at student union between classes

408
00:30:31.070 --> 00:30:34.700
to see the new queen with her new hairdo

409
00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:36.670
is the new required chapel

410
00:30:36.670 --> 00:30:39.560
of the American college dude's life.

411
00:30:39.560 --> 00:30:41.150
(audience laughing)

412
00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:45.460
And he is required by social compulsion

413
00:30:45.460 --> 00:30:46.910
to make his appearance there.

414
00:30:49.470 --> 00:30:54.140
I make no plea for a return to Horatio Alger mythology

415
00:30:56.090 --> 00:30:58.293
of working your way through college,

416
00:30:59.770 --> 00:31:02.120
but it is evident enough that the college culture

417
00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:04.480
is a PIDO centric culture

418
00:31:06.330 --> 00:31:08.540
and that everything is done for the children

419
00:31:09.970 --> 00:31:12.183
and they're almost spoiled brats.

420
00:31:14.864 --> 00:31:17.593
They see their education as a right before

421
00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:20.023
they see it as an obligation.

422
00:31:22.020 --> 00:31:25.990
And here's where I think the Christian faith,

423
00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:30.990
Christian ethics needs to speak to that point

424
00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:33.693
and the springs of motivation.

425
00:31:37.110 --> 00:31:40.380
The passion for economics security

426
00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:44.588
and the expectation of economic security

427
00:31:44.588 --> 00:31:47.323
always hold their moral decisions.

428
00:31:49.623 --> 00:31:52.560
How about this business of cheating on exam?

429
00:31:55.890 --> 00:32:00.530
Well, it is done as an accepted good.

430
00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:08.393
You asked with some misgivings and qualms,

431
00:32:09.990 --> 00:32:14.150
but it's an accepted good and ostensible good since one

432
00:32:14.150 --> 00:32:18.550
has to pass the course to get the average,

433
00:32:18.550 --> 00:32:21.033
to get the job, or to get into graduate school.

434
00:32:24.670 --> 00:32:28.970
The problem of cheating either on exams

435
00:32:28.970 --> 00:32:31.813
or in general campus traffic.

436
00:32:34.270 --> 00:32:37.820
It becomes not so strange phenomenon morally to analyze.

437
00:32:37.820 --> 00:32:42.700
If one sees how the character type has shifted

438
00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:48.463
from the pure accent to the operator.

439
00:32:51.860 --> 00:32:56.860
The operator has the marketing orientation

440
00:32:58.030 --> 00:33:00.830
of his personality there across their girl speaks of it.

441
00:33:01.930 --> 00:33:05.813
He markets himself on the campus.

442
00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:13.460
He is well tutored in social contacts and interviewing

443
00:33:17.110 --> 00:33:19.220
on and any campus election

444
00:33:19.220 --> 00:33:24.023
or choice between the puritan and the operator.

445
00:33:25.470 --> 00:33:27.833
The operator always wins hands down.

446
00:33:29.020 --> 00:33:30.713
He's the smooth apple.

447
00:33:32.610 --> 00:33:35.350
One operator I know climb very successfully

448
00:33:35.350 --> 00:33:38.870
and quickly the ladder of campus success

449
00:33:38.870 --> 00:33:43.167
with this bewitching gambit when he met new people,

450
00:33:43.167 --> 00:33:46.077
"I'm so glad to meet you at last."

451
00:33:46.077 --> 00:33:49.100
(audience laughing)

452
00:33:49.100 --> 00:33:53.780
No one could fail to fall for this guy.

453
00:33:53.780 --> 00:33:58.780
Finally, the frantic passion for security is heightened

454
00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:07.653
by the enemy of the students' intellectual experience.

455
00:34:12.893 --> 00:34:17.630
His four year run is a fragmented one

456
00:34:17.630 --> 00:34:19.103
in the intellectuals sphere.

457
00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:23.440
He has no intellectual center of reference

458
00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:29.460
or frame of meaning into which the parts of knowledge

459
00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:30.423
can be fitted.

460
00:34:32.660 --> 00:34:36.303
The curriculum of the college is absolute anarchy.

461
00:34:40.710 --> 00:34:45.650
Student take courses and at some kind...

462
00:34:45.650 --> 00:34:48.660
Rigged to some kind of co-curriculum

463
00:34:48.660 --> 00:34:53.390
or general liberal arts or distribution requirements

464
00:34:53.390 --> 00:34:55.293
as a ballot poll.

465
00:34:56.230 --> 00:35:01.230
But if the truth be told, this is sheer fragmented anarchy.

466
00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:06.740
You may find some intellectual center

467
00:35:06.740 --> 00:35:10.053
in his major, junior, or senior year,

468
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.090
but generally his intellectual experience is detached

469
00:35:15.450 --> 00:35:18.233
from whatever purpose he has in life.

470
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.110
His vocation is separated from his profession

471
00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:26.370
who is detective of the lingo.

472
00:35:26.370 --> 00:35:31.110
He's congenitally in the football of making connections

473
00:35:31.110 --> 00:35:32.653
one field with another.

474
00:35:34.040 --> 00:35:38.480
So field is he in the compartmentalization

475
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.743
of his intellectual experience.

476
00:35:44.740 --> 00:35:47.710
This is on the mental, the intellectual side,

477
00:35:47.710 --> 00:35:50.340
but it permeates his whole being

478
00:35:51.420 --> 00:35:54.940
and it accentuates this fragmentation certainly.

479
00:35:54.940 --> 00:35:59.940
Accentuates is yearning for wholeness and oneness.

480
00:36:02.770 --> 00:36:05.650
Finding a frame of meaning

481
00:36:05.650 --> 00:36:10.650
by which the parts of his intellectual growth can be...

482
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:12.483
In which it can be incorporated.

483
00:36:13.560 --> 00:36:17.050
And at this point, I think that very strong need

484
00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:21.240
is evident for the kind of thing that is gradually coming

485
00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:26.240
to the pore religious centers of intellectual experience

486
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:34.360
to provide a way in the scattered and anonymously finding

487
00:36:38.490 --> 00:36:43.490
how to look at reality and how to come again

488
00:36:43.874 --> 00:36:48.090
to be able to see life in some integrated fashion

489
00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:51.303
both steadily and whole.

490
00:36:56.070 --> 00:36:59.730
Now, as I said at the beginning, this is very quick sketch

491
00:36:59.730 --> 00:37:03.920
this profile is quite too impressionistic

492
00:37:05.330 --> 00:37:07.050
and needs sharp correction

493
00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:09.760
from the kind of firsthand experience

494
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:11.817
that you all are having to show up

495
00:37:16.330 --> 00:37:21.330
the errors of such impressions as I've tried to make.

496
00:37:23.560 --> 00:37:25.710
I think Mr. Chairman if maybe we could have

497
00:37:28.341 --> 00:37:30.291
a bit of time or are we gonna have a...

498
00:37:31.619 --> 00:37:33.970
Is the plan for a respondent at this point to-

499
00:37:33.970 --> 00:37:35.358
<v ->Well, they have to respond this.</v>

500
00:37:35.358 --> 00:37:36.716
<v ->To slash this down?</v>

501
00:37:36.716 --> 00:37:41.716
<v ->We do have to (indistinct)</v>

502
00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:44.210
<v ->All right, yeah, thanks.</v>

503
00:37:44.210 --> 00:37:45.277
<v ->Thank you very much.</v>

504
00:37:45.277 --> 00:37:48.277
(audience clapping)

505
00:37:58.421 --> 00:38:03.421
<v ->All right, we have the respondent (indistinct)</v>

506
00:38:10.410 --> 00:38:12.620
<v ->Perhaps a certain irony in my standing here</v>

507
00:38:12.620 --> 00:38:14.223
in this capacity this morning.

508
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.730
The summer of 1951, I had a course

509
00:38:17.730 --> 00:38:20.260
with Professor Peter here at Duke.

510
00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:25.260
When he at times analyzed some presentations of mine.

511
00:38:25.670 --> 00:38:29.823
Now I find myself at positions reversing the role.

512
00:38:32.250 --> 00:38:34.270
And each of you has had the experience

513
00:38:34.270 --> 00:38:39.020
I'm sure having students either report verbally

514
00:38:39.020 --> 00:38:41.680
on what you allegedly said in class

515
00:38:42.570 --> 00:38:46.280
or read with growing her

516
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.143
and this may what they write on examination papers.

517
00:38:51.616 --> 00:38:55.430
A few weeks ago in a course in the New Testament

518
00:38:55.430 --> 00:38:59.200
I had asked a question about continuity's

519
00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:01.980
and tensions between Judaism and Christianity

520
00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:03.640
at the beginning of the Christian movement,

521
00:39:03.640 --> 00:39:08.450
and one of the girls wrote somewhat as follows.

522
00:39:08.450 --> 00:39:12.410
Also Jesus Christ taught the Jews to abandon

523
00:39:12.410 --> 00:39:14.240
some of the traditional practices,

524
00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:18.207
which they had observed for many years, such as castration.

525
00:39:18.207 --> 00:39:21.207
(audience laughing)

526
00:39:31.040 --> 00:39:35.450
I don't want to emasculate what Professor Peter just said

527
00:39:39.870 --> 00:39:41.560
or get it down to the bed rock

528
00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:44.840
the church cold place has been talking about.

529
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:46.330
There are one or two reflections,

530
00:39:46.330 --> 00:39:48.340
which I have on hearing this paper

531
00:39:49.620 --> 00:39:51.233
or this presentation rather.

532
00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:55.160
In terms of your basic Augustinian categories

533
00:39:55.160 --> 00:39:57.310
of which I personally do not quarrel

534
00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:02.313
having also studied the profound here at Yale.

535
00:40:04.630 --> 00:40:08.963
I find that many students resist this analysis,

536
00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:11.753
even on a descriptive face.

537
00:40:13.090 --> 00:40:15.180
Now this may be a reflection of the anomie

538
00:40:15.180 --> 00:40:17.880
you were talking about, I don't know.

539
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.590
But they regard this as an attempt illegitimately

540
00:40:21.590 --> 00:40:26.340
to smuggle religion into discussions

541
00:40:26.340 --> 00:40:27.710
that otherwise seem quite sane

542
00:40:27.710 --> 00:40:32.670
and rational to them or by some legerdemain

543
00:40:32.670 --> 00:40:35.963
to make everyone religious.

544
00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:41.260
And the student who has a thorough dose of objectivity

545
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.080
as the norm for scientific approach

546
00:40:46.080 --> 00:40:51.080
will often defend the attempt to find an objective reference

547
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:56.260
for moral decisions or if this student has many are

548
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:59.230
in our time thoroughly familiar

549
00:40:59.230 --> 00:41:04.230
with logical positivism AJ Air Slick and Company.

550
00:41:05.290 --> 00:41:07.820
They will argue that moral decisions

551
00:41:07.820 --> 00:41:12.570
are simply emotive preferences

552
00:41:13.460 --> 00:41:16.790
that there is no way of empirically verifying

553
00:41:16.790 --> 00:41:18.403
any kind of moral choice.

554
00:41:19.690 --> 00:41:22.560
Therefore one makes his own decisions

555
00:41:22.560 --> 00:41:25.640
in terms of the mental way of his own passions

556
00:41:25.640 --> 00:41:26.740
to quote their review.

557
00:41:27.900 --> 00:41:30.180
I don't know what this kind of analysis says

558
00:41:30.180 --> 00:41:34.010
to some of these streams of thought within

559
00:41:34.010 --> 00:41:36.130
the life of the college and university,

560
00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:41.130
but it occurs to me that when we try to extend something

561
00:41:41.550 --> 00:41:45.940
like the notion of love that man is what he prizes,

562
00:41:45.940 --> 00:41:48.890
what he cherished seen as misdirected love

563
00:41:48.890 --> 00:41:53.890
or that we take an approach in terms of say

564
00:41:55.184 --> 00:41:59.330
(indistinct) familiar category that we meet

565
00:41:59.330 --> 00:42:00.910
a certain amount of resistance here

566
00:42:00.910 --> 00:42:04.270
and not simply in terms of the resistance we meet,

567
00:42:04.270 --> 00:42:06.370
but the fact that there is a feeling

568
00:42:06.370 --> 00:42:09.083
that something illegitimate is smuggling the argument.

569
00:42:10.340 --> 00:42:14.700
The other response which I want to make concerns

570
00:42:14.700 --> 00:42:18.640
the creative minority about what you thought.

571
00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:20.020
If I understand you correctly

572
00:42:20.020 --> 00:42:22.900
and this is certainly confirmed in my own experience.

573
00:42:22.900 --> 00:42:24.220
What you're saying is that

574
00:42:24.220 --> 00:42:27.950
the ethically creative small group of students

575
00:42:27.950 --> 00:42:30.760
when we find on our campus today

576
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:34.300
are those who will respond only

577
00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:39.300
when they find unambiguous moral situations of choice,

578
00:42:41.290 --> 00:42:45.370
but lack of any ambiguity is the criteria

579
00:42:45.370 --> 00:42:47.523
for our moral decision.

580
00:42:49.930 --> 00:42:52.920
This troubles me as I think you were troubled

581
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.170
by it in certain passing references,

582
00:42:56.170 --> 00:43:01.170
but what is our role then as chaplains as those who profess

583
00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:06.610
to understand something about the Christian ethic

584
00:43:06.610 --> 00:43:10.490
and interpreting these situations of moral decision

585
00:43:10.490 --> 00:43:13.710
is our tendency to applaud these students

586
00:43:13.710 --> 00:43:16.030
because they at least are concerned

587
00:43:16.030 --> 00:43:18.690
and are willing to do something without pointing out

588
00:43:18.690 --> 00:43:23.690
the dangers in here and in this kind of moral judgment.

589
00:43:24.430 --> 00:43:27.670
For example, I'm sure most of us are very sympathetic

590
00:43:27.670 --> 00:43:31.670
with the freedom riders with citizens in the line,

591
00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:35.570
but I grow more and more restive when I hear the technique

592
00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:38.850
of so-called non-violent resistance described

593
00:43:38.850 --> 00:43:41.023
as deep Christian efforts in this area.

594
00:43:42.030 --> 00:43:47.030
Now this may be a very pragmatic kind of press view

595
00:43:47.060 --> 00:43:50.320
but I think it roots back to the fundamental norms

596
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.800
with which we will be dealing on Thursday.

597
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.460
What are we to do to foster creativity?

598
00:43:56.460 --> 00:43:59.950
Are we to also foster illusions about

599
00:43:59.950 --> 00:44:01.497
the Christian ethic itself?

600
00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:08.059
(audience clapping)

601
00:44:14.913 --> 00:44:19.913
<v ->(indistinct) I don't have an excess amount</v>

602
00:44:23.228 --> 00:44:24.061
of adrenaline at the moment.

603
00:44:24.061 --> 00:44:27.150
You'll be glad to wait until after we have coffee

604
00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:29.853
and go into our discussion segment

605
00:44:29.853 --> 00:44:31.718
so we'll adjourn for coffee.

606
00:44:31.718 --> 00:44:35.218
(unintelligible chatting)

