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- You know, even though these are his memories, these are his experiences, the government continues to classify them and continues to prevent him from being able to tell the world about them. And he says that. 

Interviewer: If they were random, if they were random, they wouldn't be classified. 

- Yeah. If they, well, he basically says if this had happened to, he makes the point often that if this had been other people, anybody but these detainees, this wouldn't, this is not classified. Like since when? I mean, you see police brutality on a daily basis in our country. I mean, arguably, that does not make the police look good. But people are not, I mean, it does happen, but people are not considered gagged just because what they say may be contrary to the government. That's not a thing that happens. That is not legal. But by virtue of being him, by virtue of being again, brown, non-citizen, Muslim detainee in the CIA system, everything he says is classified. Everything he thinks is classified. Any Joe on the street can talk about the CIA rendition program. Can look up what happened there, who was reported to have been held there. They can even look up all the public reports about maybe where the black sites were, something that I can neither confirm nor deny as a government official. But he can't. He can't talk about any of it, and he's the one who it happened to. James Mitchell, one of the psychologists, one of the doctors who designed this program can write a book giving out all sorts of details that the government would classify if they came from Ammar al-Baluchi. If Ammar al-Baluchi wrote that book from his perspective, and we tried putting that through classification review, that wouldn't see the light of day. But because James Mitchell wrote it, and it makes the government look good, made it past all the sensors. He's on a book tour right now. On top of the $40 million he got from the CIA, he's now earning royalties from his book.