- There was another guy in front of me. He was hanging in front of me and he couldn't survive, he died. After he died, they let him just hang over there and he was dead for, he was dead for a long time. The first day they hang me on chain, I could see him, that he is moving, and people are going to him to talk to him, or to try to talk to him, but the other days, I never saw moving again. Nobody went to him to take him down, or to talk to him. He was just hanging 24 hours with no any breaks. And this man was dead, of course. I could see it on his body, his face, everything was just... He was a dead man, so... 

Interviewer: Do you know who he was? 

- I don't know. I don't know if I saw him before in that camp, if I talked to him before. But his face was changed because I think he got beaten up very badly before. I couldn't, I couldn't recognize his face. 

Interviewer: And where were you- 

- And his head was hanging like that so I couldn't see his face clearly. So I couldn't know if I know him or not. I don't know. 

Interviewer: What were you thinking about yourself when you saw that? 

- It was for me, of course, it was, I was sure I could be the next one because it's a place with no rules. And the only rule is that they can make everything what they want to.